Dragon Control and them being "wild"

[valheru]

This is an incomplete post at the moment, hopefully others can share their thoughts before I finish it (sorry, it's late).

A few months ago, the dragon control rate was changed based on an article that stated they were "more wild" or something along the lines of that. this was assumed that they were harder to control in large packs. Therefore, the more dragons you had out, the more they would disobey you. This is incorrect.

I have found information stating that the "more wild" thing refers to the fact that dragons would randomly attack their owners if their owners casted offensive spells on within range of the dragons.

The correct formula should be:

1) 1 dragon is just as easy to control as 200 dragons.
2) If you are near your dragons, and cast ebolt/explode/another harmful spell, there is a check made against each dragon to see if they will attack you or not.

I just thought that I would open the discussion tonight, and dig up the information tomorrow. I am positive that my sources will prove this to be correct.

thoughts?

Thanks!

[GuardianKnight]

Hey i'm all for fixing things so i can control more pets .....tamers don't cast but in rare occasions so it doesn't affect much.

[Faust]

This was implemented awhile ago until someone produced some patch notes after the UOR era deeming this feature inaccurate to the era we are replicating. This feature was reverted fairly quickly after the next patch and no longer exists here for quite some time now.

[Mikel123]

1) 1 dragon is just as easy to control as 200 dragons.
2) If you are near your dragons, and cast ebolt/explode/another harmful spell, there is a check made against each dragon to see if they will attack you or not.

1) I believe this is the case on UOSA... though of course, with 200 dragons and a 92.5% success rate at commands (for example), you're obviously going to have a greater number of dragons fail to obey than if you had 10 dragons. But the percentage feels very accurate to me right now (I'm at 99.5 taming).

2) never heard of this

I'm actually quite pleasantly surprised... the rate at which pets fail commands and ultimately get down to "very happy" or "happy" (aka need some meat) seems identical to the way it was. Which is pretty cool, because with the randomness of something like this, even if the % was exactly like T2A, some strings of good or back luck would probably make it "feel" like it was wrong one way or another.

[Hemperor]

On that matter, I've read many articles that state:

"Firebreathers do not like magic, careful when you cast around them"

Personally I have never had an issue with it, but firebreathers should also attack blues at random which happens here about a hundredth as often as I would imagine it happening, there are tons of articles about not bringing your dragons to town. This of course, involves server lines and is much deeper than that, but still.

[tekai]

I was a tamer through all of t2a, there was never a time I played where I had to worry about using offencive spells around my dragons.

[Hemperor]

All kill also functioned back then, right?

[tekai]

Yes.. it did

[Kaivan]

If I may interject, the information that I have read on this subject talks about the fact that newly tamed firebreathers tend to act very 'wild' until you crossed a server line. Their wild attitude made them randomly attack people as if they were still a wild creature if a few things were done such as taking any action to refresh your screen (i.e. mounting a horse, or casting a spell), or if a player ran within a short distance of the creature. This behavior was almost always remedied by crossing a server line, but on rare occasions the creature would still act wild. Information on this can be found in the taming guide on stratics as well as on archived versions of the taming archive.

[Faust]

Very clear and good reason why memory isn't ever conducted in era accuracy decisions...

[tekai]

what are you talking about, I was right. Once the dragon no longer wanted to kill you, it never did anything wrong.

Everyone knows you have to be careful around newly tamed firebreathers. Becuase there are no server lines, you must simply wait out the criminal "grey timer" of the firebreather.

What you were suggesting earlier was that if i was farming with my dragons, and i casted ebolt i would get eaten. that is NOT TRUE. And with the whole, bringing dragons into town and them attacking blues, this is once again common knowledge until the dragon was tamed. There was never a time where i had a dragon for a day or two, and it would attack a random blue. never.

[Faust]

It has been well documented that firebreathers are "fearful" of poisonous creatures and will even attack blue poisonous pets in town with their firebreath.

[tekai]

Its possible that i never remember that due to it never happening, so i'm never going to debate. but it would not attack a blue PC, myself, or another dragon.

[Faust]

Attacking blue pc's has actually been documented too...

The only problem with that notion is that there is no proof that the dragon did or did not cross a server boundary after being tamed.

That is still up for debate until proven true the last I heard.

[Hemperor]

I know there is a very, very small chance of them attacking blues currently as it happened to me and Derrick confirmed it.