UO Second Age

I want everyone to know what a waste of time lockpicking/cartography is. I wasted some serious time macroing my ass off to gm my lockpicking. And for what? 10k and some force weapons! The spawn system is totally screwed up, and I am really disappointed about this. Currently I am averaging 4 force weapons, 1 power, and everything else is might or less. And this is after 7 DEVIOUS MAPS! On OSI you would be rewarded for with 3-5 Vanqs, and almost everything else was power. Sure there would always be a few junk weapons, but there were very few.

Derrick,
I hope you will do something about this. I am not sure if anyone else has ever complained about this, or if there is just too few people on the shard who are active lockpickers who can do lvl 5 maps to have come across this issue. Whatever the case may be, something is seriously wrong, and I hope that it gets fixed very soon.

I had a treasure hunter during '99 and no way did you ever receive 3-5 vanqs and the rest power...

You would be lucky if you even hit one vanq in that situation.

Not to mention, I have not received ONE piece of invulnerable armor. And Faust, by the sounds of your response, I highly doubt you had a gm lockpicker EVER, because it is clear you have no clue to what you are talking about.

You obviously don't know whom you're speaking to son.

Kinarah wrote:I want everyone to know what a waste of time lockpicking/cartography is. I wasted some serious time macroing my ass off to gm my lockpicking. And for what? 10k and some force weapons! The spawn system is totally screwed up, and I am really disappointed about this. Currently I am averaging 4 force weapons, 1 power, and everything else is might or less. And this is after 7 DEVIOUS MAPS! On OSI you would be rewarded for with 3-5 Vanqs, and almost everything else was power. Sure there would always be a few junk weapons, but there were very few.

Derrick,
I hope you will do something about this. I am not sure if anyone else has ever complained about this, or if there is just too few people on the shard who are active lockpickers who can do lvl 5 maps to have come across this issue. Whatever the case may be, something is seriously wrong, and I hope that it gets fixed very soon.

Kinarah wrote:Not to mention, I have not received ONE piece of invulnerable armor. And Faust, by the sounds of your response, I highly doubt you had a gm lockpicker EVER, because it is clear you have no clue to what you are talking about.

This has been another edition of How Not to Complain about Things on the Boards.

Here are a number of helpful hints:

1. Post at the correct forum (Era Accuracy).

2. Keep expressions of disappointment minimal. You don't own the computer that this shard runs on, hence you have no grounds for outrage.

3. When speaking of era accuracy, do not merely appeal to what you seem to think you might remember things being like ten years ago. Find documentation if possible. If not, better to phrase your deep disappointment as a question, viz., "Pardon me, chaps. But does anyone else seem to recall there being more PHAT LEWTZ on level five maps ten years ago?"

4. When others disagree with your memories, do not reply with "WTF U R DUM" or any of its variants.

Of course, we all have our moments of strong disagreement with the shard and, even more often, its players, but if we follow the above rules, we will be that much closer to the UO Shangra La of era accuracy. If we're especially good, Derrick will implement ridable neon Maahes-es.

chumbucket wrote:Derrick will implement ridable neon Maahes-es.

you dont have one yet? guess you dident log in for Maahes Brithday

mines orange

Fail thread is fail.

You sir, clearly do not "get" either chance, or loot tables, or perhaps both.

3/5 vanq weps isnt true however i knew alot of treasure hunters and the loot was alot higher than avg force weps you would get atleast 2 powers and 1 vanq + all the other stuff t hunters were always the best for gold on osi.

T-Hunting on OSI 99+ you typically received 1 vanq, and a power or two. However, It wasn't uncommon to not get a vanq but you almost always had a power or two, unfortunately I doubt there are any sites that collected data for this era. Although, I know up to and including UOR the treasure chest loot was basically the same, I would say roughly to 2004, maybe longer.

im with kinarah. devious maps dont have enough usefull items. although when i first started here i was getting 1-2 vanqs and atleast 1 peice invuln. the actually profit came from the reflect/invis items from devious. dont feel bad kinarah, the actual profit from lockpicking is from higher level dungeon chests, not tmaps.

edit: there is some data collection of people who did all level maps in the uohc chat log, where people would ask what they recieved. i recall there being much more amounts of charges on magic items. ive seen people talk about pulling a bracelet with 100+ reflect charges from a lvl 1 tmap. it is a little off here imo.

I'm going to second what Noxmonk said.

I don't recall OSI making drastic changes to the T-map loot system or major changes to dungeon chests during UO:R, or T2A. The rest of the eras I can't really speak for.

I also never actually had a character with lock picking or cartography, but I will say that I had guild mates that did, and we would constantly hit up the spawns.

They would go from dungeon to dungeon and rack up about 10k loot of each run. Getting large amounts of gold, and gems. And yes, always getting at LEAST one vanq. I don't recall them ever getting petty force weapons from Lvl 5, let alone, Lvl 4, T-maps.

Also, to the thread starter, we can all tell your upset. I would be to if I worked forever to get my char where I wanted it to be. But by showing your emotions in your posts and arguments for change, people will just disregard everything you have to say, and respond primarily to your emotions. (as pretty much every poster responding to you did)

How did you "macro your ass to GM lockpicking?", that left me in confusion...

As for tmaps, I beleive the loot tables are exactly the same when it comes to magic items, for all level treasure maps, however when you have a level 5, you get more drops, thus more rolls, thus more chances to "win big".

On OSI, and on UOSA, I have never, ever, in my entire time playing (1997-2002) seen any clothing/jewelry item with more than 100 charges, and when they were above 60 charges, they weren't invis/tele/reflect, they were str/agi/cunning/protection. This is purely observation, I don't have any documentation in front of me at the moment to back my statement up.

VANQ ARE RARE HERE, it's in the best interest of all

thanks for stopping complaining... just play !!!

i dont trust anyones memory who says 'I specifically remember...' or any variation there of