#secondage and trash talk

[hifi]

Sunday night at #secondage:

21:56:57 < hifi> Vega-: you're rusty
21:59:07 < Vega-> ?
21:59:25 <@Mammoth[phone]> No trash talk hifi take it to #secondagetears
21:59:31 < hifi> what?
21:59:36 < Vega-> hahahaha
21:59:45 < hifi> oh cmon
21:59:57 < Vega-> SECONDAGETEARS
22:00:00 < hifi> I can tease man a bit
22:00:12 < jtom-TG> what man?
22:00:24 < hifi> buurn
22:00:24 < Hazy> i sold them all mith
22:00:40 < hifi> Vega-: you're hunting now, right, or were just?
22:01:01 < Hazy> hifi anymore trash talk and im going to have to ask you to leave
22:01:09 < jtom-TG> dry mouth
22:01:15 < Hazy> lol
22:01:20 < Hazy> every other time you type its about a dry mouth
22:01:24 < hifi> please don't, I might need to leave if you do that
22:01:31 < Hazy> lol hifi
22:01:34 < jtom-TG> nothing worse than a dry mouth
22:02:27 < hifi> someone playing as Vega, whoever it was, could be Vega, couldn't kill even one of three newbies, that's where I was getting at
22:02:28 < Vega-> hunting?
22:02:47 < Vega-> not true
22:02:49 < Vega-> I killed one of you
22:02:58 < Vega-> pretty hard to chase all 3 of you going in different directions
22:03:04 < Vega-> but well, aesthetics
22:03:07 < Hazy> TAKE YOUR TRASH TALK TO #SECONDAGETEARS
22:03:11 < Vega-> ^
22:03:11 < hifi> three went out, three came back
22:03:22 < Vega-> then idk who I saw outside the dungeon
22:03:23 < Vega-> but they died.
22:03:28 < hifi> lol
22:03:36 < hifi> poor they
22:03:40 < Vega-> ohwell
22:03:48 < Vega-> I've been at it for coming on like 9 hours now
22:03:58 < hifi> have to tease you, you know, to harder your game
22:04:04 < hifi> harden*
22:04:17 < hifi> might harden something else too, but that's just an unfortunate side effect
22:04:27 < hifi> anyway, gg
22:05:24 < kautso> poor guy came to take a hit for me
22:05:35 -!- hifi was kicked from #secondage by ChanServ [Banned: trash talk]

This was hardly trash talk and banning was completely unneccessary. I was just going to bed after the last line as my "provocation" was finished. I did joke about trash talking because we were all being sarcastic about it. Friendly (-ish) discussion about on going events is *not* trash talk. Fighting over something and/or uneccessary swearing is in my opinion. Vega can also sign the fact he wasn't offended or anything.

Also, this isn't a personal attack or a flame bait (not intended as one). I just want to open discussion about where to draw the line, in my opinion this was far away from being trash talk.

Further in the subject, I don't think there even needs to be a #secondagetears or (former?) #secondagepvp or whatever. If people go out of line they can either take it into pm and/or get the boot if others in the channel start to get annoyed by them.

[Capitalist]

Being a large fan of trammel myself, I will testify that I'm going to lose sleep over this slander by hifi.

[Freight Elevator]

Authority is fun

[Lord Mammoth]

We cannot and should not have to determine if you or anyone is trying to rile someone up and get them to say something they shouldn't. If I don’t ban you but in turn ban someone else for saying the same thing with the only difference being the person they said it too responded less civil, then that could be viewed as favoritism. This isn't a new rule; it’s just a rule that hasn't been enforced in a while. #secondagetears has been just a /join away. It’s pretty simple, if you were crafting a forum post instead of typing on IRC it’s likely the post would be made under trash talk. Don't let me stop everyone from having a civil discussion, rules can change.

Thanks,

Mammoth

[Vega/Delo]

IMO didn't seem like anything I haven't seen before. I am also a gloater/enticer and will often, like most, bash a failed gank or pk attempt. Guess we got used to the government shutdown of UOSA.

[Teriyl]

Just disgruntling the remaining player base. Might have been a good idea to say you were going to enforce rules that had not been enforced in a long time before banning people. Most folks are on the edge of leaving, it doesn't take more than a nudge to push them over....

[Boondock_Saint]

All I ever see when I go into IRC is trash talking from all the sweet hally cyclers. I don't think I've ever seen anyone banned except for racial slurs or spamming.

[farnk]

That's quite retarded.


In b4 if u dnt like da ruleZ den dnt use IRC

[Casey]

seemed like a pretty friendly conversation to me.

is poking fun at someone considered trash talk?

WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE?!

[hifi]

That's quite retarded.


In b4 if u dnt like da ruleZ den dnt use IRC

This is about the rules and where to draw the line. If you think the rules are fine as they are enforced now, that's your opinion and is welcome in this thread.

In my opinion 'trash talk' starts with name calling and ends with profanity you can't even comprehend and at that point when things get heated and they won't calm down some action should be taken. YMMV.

[Phantom 3]

seemed like a pretty friendly conversation to me.

is poking fun at someone considered trash talk?

WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE?!

Yeah! Where DO WE DRAW THE LINE?!

It is because of this post I am now going to change my views. No more talking period. Lets make it illegal to talk. And lets take everyone's guns while we are at it... then we can make as much sense as the U.S. Government = >

[archaicsubrosa77]

it's less to monitor if you have your fight discussion elsewhere methinks

[memememe]

seemed like a pretty friendly conversation to me.

is poking fun at someone considered trash talk?

WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE?!

Yeah! Where DO WE DRAW THE LINE?!

It is because of this post I am now going to change my views. No more talking period. Lets make it illegal to talk. And lets take everyone's guns while we are at it... then we can make as much sense as the U.S. Government = >

Hahahahhaha.
Sorry. Always get a laughing fit whenever I see one of them low IQ US boys bring out the gun argument.
Something that made sense 300 years ago..... zzzzzz

[Budner]

In light of the posted IRC text, a banning in this case seems excessive in this case, IMO. Not to mention arbitrary.

[Freight Elevator]

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