UO Second Age

I continue to encounter players recalling around to mage shops and buying up all the regs with characters that are clearly unattended.

Is this 'legal'? And if so, should it be?

It seems quite similar to unattended resource gathering.

So that's why I'm having such a hard time finding reagents ?

Was wondering...

lol. Well getting regs can sometimes be a pain but let me be clear I'm not whining about that. This unattended reg buying though is just annoying.. you see them recall in, walk around aimlessly (ie: not towards a vendor) while spamming vendor buy then recall out to next mage shop. Attemping to talk to them obviously results in no response.

Completly Legal although doing it AFK probably isnt era accurate but then again that could be said about alot of things

it should be like unattended resource gathering because well, its collecting a resource unattended. Being new here, im being held to ransom buying regs. i shouldn't have to pay 4-5k per 500 reagent type.
why is it not illegal here?

Not illegal. AFK spending money to get something is not the same as AFK spending nothing to get something. For further information please feel free to read any of the two threads linked below.

10 Pages worth of discussion started Nov. 2011
4 Pages worth of discussion started Nov. 2012

You were still a couple of months short if you wanted a lengthy discussion.

Free regs imo, train a junk character up with fencing and get a dp'd blade...if you see them around they will return, just be ready to pounce so the poison works its magic before they recall...

ok i have read all that, cant say i agree but there ya go.
perhaps another new player guide needs written up? simply put, make a macro to buy mass regs, and sell for 5x the price. rinse and repeat. result.

Who needs reagents anyways

Whereas I fear the automatons may replace me someday in my business dealings...I do see that this non-interactive approach to business is rather lucrative.

Regardless, the laws of the land are the laws of the land. If interaction with the game is not required, then that is the way it shall be.

It is pretty easy to kill them. Find out their pattern and when they get to the shop you are watching have a char stand on their rune at the bank and then just kill them with an off screen 50/50, pots or poison and watch as their dumb primitive EUO/Razor script tries to recall over and over to a blocked spot.

Some of the other scripters have a bit more complexity in their scripts though and they will go to alternate spots if its blocked. Those just have to be dealt with using timing and plenty of pot hucking alts.

devildjinn wrote:it should be like unattended resource gathering because well, its collecting a resource unattended.

Well said. Sometimes the most simple logic is the most compelling. Totally agree that this is inconsistent policy. Don't care much that macro'd reg-buying is occurring, but the inconsistency is pretty obvious IMO.

You can finesse your way around the issue, but it's unattended, and it's gathering resources.

Pirul wrote:Not illegal. AFK spending money to get something is not the same as AFK spending nothing to get something.

Budner wrote:

devildjinn wrote:it should be like unattended resource gathering because well, its collecting a resource unattended.

Well said. Sometimes the most simple logic is the most compelling. Totally agree that this is inconsistent policy. Don't care much that macro'd reg-buying is occurring, but the inconsistency is pretty obvious IMO.
You can finesse your way around the issue, but it's unattended, and it's gathering resources.

Like Pirul is saying, its the [buying] part that is the difference.

devildjinn wrote:ok i have read all that, cant say i agree but there ya go.
perhaps another new player guide needs written up? simply put, make a macro to buy mass regs, and sell for 5x the price. rinse and repeat. result.

If you are paying 5x the price, stop your getting ripped off! If you are going to try and sell at 5x, you wont get that much over. There are plenty of players that sell 1.5-2.0 over. Also if you time it right, you can beat them to the buying in the first place. I generally don't have an issue getting what I need of any resource. Whether collecting it myself or buying it.
For example: I have a couple of tinkers [GM], carpenter GM w/ 90 blacksmithing and I haven't spent a minute mining or lumberjacking.
Adapt and overcome!

Plenty of players selling for around 25-30% markup, and a few lower than that.

I guess mining unattended is ok too since you're 'spending' shovels when you do it.