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BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:53 pm
by ScoobyDoO
Just had a general question.

I was thinking on creating some sort of BOTS just for greifing purposes but I'm trying to figure out if BOT Archers are still effective? I thought there was some type of delay when you first attack someone with a bow? Id prefer to go the cheapest route to get this done as well. If you had to pick between an archer or Mage just for max damage on multi clienting 3 accounts to all shoot a bow at the same time or casting a flame strike at the same time to cause the target to die. What's the most effective? This also brings up another question. Is multi clienting for the sole purpose of killing a target in this fashion illegal? So this would just require a nice little razor macro timed perfectly to all cast at the same time/ or shoot at the same time to kill target. Please keep the trash talk out of this one. Ok whatever I suck at pvp. Ok I'm terrible at this game. Since we got that out of the way, lets focus on the questions for everybody's knowledge that may be wondering the same thing.

Love,

Scooby DoO

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:06 pm
by Jason-
Here is my take on it. Go archer bot with vanqs or powers. Get hiding and stealth on all 3 of them also.

With Flamestrikes, you have to cast a level 7 spell and it gives too much time for a target to run off. The only effective mage bots on this server are the 20 bazooka bots, but the element of surprise isn't present.

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:26 pm
by the bazookas
:D. There aren't THAT many of us ;).

I say don't waste your time with archer bots. There's a reason we are the bazookas and not the machine guns.

Also, you won't be very successful with just yourself (3 clients). You'll need at least one partner in crime (for a total of 6 clients) to do some real damage.

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:31 pm
by FishinPro
Ya archer bots suck, HOWEVER, you arent going to kill someone that has reflect up with only 3 bots casting FS...I have been thinking about the best way to 3 client this and have the ultimate results. Probably wont let you know what it is once I figure it out, but....

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:34 pm
by Jason-
the bazookas wrote::D. There aren't THAT many of us ;).

I say don't waste your time with archer bots. There's a reason we are the bazookas and not the machine guns.

Also, you won't be very successful with just yourself (3 clients). You'll need at least one partner in crime (for a total of 6 clients) to do some real damage.
I always exaggerate the number to ensure people stay afraid.


If he's interested in running just 3 clients and griefing, I would assume his only effective strategy is to camp an individual's house with an attack closest human macro running on all 3 clients with vanq xbows while staying hidden.

edit:
FishinPro wrote:Ya archer bots suck, HOWEVER, you arent going to kill someone that has reflect up with only 3 bots casting FS...I have been thinking about the best way to 3 client this and have the ultimate results. Probably wont let you know what it is once I figure it out, but....
I'm beginning to come around, I think it's too expensive to train up 3 archer bots. Needless to say it's going to take time also.

But you nailed it though, reflect destroys the 3 flamestrike sync.

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:35 pm
by RoadKill
Jason- wrote: I'm beginning to come around, I think it's too expensive to train up 3 archer bots. Needless to say it's going to take time also.

But you nailed it though, reflect destroys the 3 flamestrike sync.
3 archer-bots will train cheaper, and quicker, than 3 mages.

Eval + Magery + Meditation should be slower to train than Archery + Tactics + Anatomy

Then Hiding, Stealth, or whatever else you're going to train, would be equally as fast/slow/cost regardless to mage or archery route.

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:37 pm
by Pirul
I think the concept of FS is wrong. MS however...

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:49 pm
by Light Shade
Pirul wrote:I think the concept of FS is wrong. MS however...
Like Pirul said, MS will go through Reflect. I've used this tactic when i'm with a few people that aren't that good at PvP.

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:06 pm
by RoadKill
MS and CL are good choices.

It may also be worth your time to fiddle with purple pot + spell or bow (depending templates)

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:13 pm
by Light Shade
Yeah, purple pots can be fun in more confined spaces.

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:21 pm
by ScoobyDoO
Thank you for all the positive answers! It's good to know multi clienting is legal. All honesty, 3 flame strikes should drop someone and if it don't, very close. Like you said, I don't know how the hell you get around 6 clients....but this is more for myself then anything, my own enjoyment of pissing people off. I think greifing is a big part of the fun on here and please don't get me wrong, I do not greif any new players, you may drive them off the shard, I'm more after the vets or people that have stuff (mares, high end hallies, etc..) and they normally are good sports, I do get a kick out of the ones that flip shit when they die with some high end stuff.

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:21 pm
by WiseOne
*Note to self: Always have reflect up even when recalling home for the night*

PS

Just to chime in on this debate.

Have you toyed with the idea of mixing and matching?

Why not have 2 archer bots with vanq xbows and a hally mage for the FS and if the target survives you can stay on the mage client and finish it off with some combos.

PPS

When I first saw this thread I thought it was posted in Screenshots because that would make a pretty sweet battle. Archer bots vs Flamestrike mage, sounds like a youtube sensation in the making.

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:34 pm
by ScoobyDoO
Wiseone,

Yea, lol, definitely a good idea. I'm in the works of putting these characters together. It will probably take me a solid week to 100% complete them but I definitely will post some stats and screenshots of my little project and let everyone know if it was successful or not to possibly make some insta kill bots to target specific people that are riding and such.

Thank you for your response and knowledge!

<3 Scooby DoO

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:41 pm
by [Uhh] Eo
Set your Razor range to 10 tiles max or whatever
Make the macro Cast and then attempt to target blue/red/grey or whatever, probably remove the wait for target
This way you always have the spell up, it recasts after the 20 second timer expires, and just targets on sight
You could include the use of inexpensive invis items or almost-used up invis items

Re: BOT Archers vs. Flamestrike Mage

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:02 pm
by FishinPro
Yep, you only need two lines in the macro:

Cast MS
Target (whatever)


and loop it...If you want to get technical you can put an IF statement in thier and if you actually attack someone have it cast lightning or some other quick spell to maybe finish them off if all 3 MS's dont kill them....