Smelting and the mining skill

[Adam_Ant]

I was just on test and found I could smelt valorite armor with 0 mining skill. I don't think this is correct based upon the information here:


Publish - September 22, 1999
The following was released as the September 22nd Publish on September 22, 1999.
Smelting

• Armor and weapons can be smelted back into ingots.
• Items you wish to smelt must be in your back-pack.
• Smelting will be tied to the mining skill. The higher your skill in mining, the more ingots you will get back.
• The more wear and tear on an item, the less ingots it will return.
• Items purchased from an NPC will yield only one ingot when smelted.
• Smelted magic items will yield regular ingots.
• Smelting special metals will yield ingots of that color, with the exception of dyeable kite shields.
• Smelting dyeable kite shields will return regular ingots regardless of the color of the ingots used to make the shield.
• To smelt an item:
  • Double-click a smithing tool, such as a hammer.
  • The smithing window will open and contain a forge.
  • Double-clicking the forge will bring up a targeting cursor.
  • Clicking armor or a weapon that is in your backpack will smelt that item.
  • You will receive a number of ingots depending on the item itself, its wear and tear, and your mining skill.

I had zero mining skill and was able to smelt 6 valorite plate chests without failure.

So shouldn't my mining skill be taken into account when smelting weapons/armor of metal types > iron (as described in the following table.)

Tests:
(A) set blacksmith 100, mining 0 - smelt val chest yields 8 ingots (I think this is wrong - smelting is based upon mining skill)
(B) 1st attempt: set blacksmith 0, mining 100 - smelt val chest fails with insufficient skills message (I think this is wrong - smelting is based upon mining skill)
(C) 2nd attempt: set blacksmith 0, mining 100 - smelt val chest yields 15 ingots

Getting more ingots for high mining skill and less ingots for low mining skill is correct, but I believe difficulty should also be based upon mining skill.
Finally, in reviewing the RunUO implementation for smelting I see that they have in fact implemented this exact difficulty table in their Resmelt.cs

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				double difficulty = 0.0;

				switch (resource)
				{
					case CraftResource.DullCopper: difficulty = 65.0; break;
					case CraftResource.ShadowIron: difficulty = 70.0; break;
					case CraftResource.Copper: difficulty = 75.0; break;
					case CraftResource.Bronze: difficulty = 80.0; break;
					case CraftResource.Gold: difficulty = 85.0; break;
					case CraftResource.Agapite: difficulty = 90.0; break;
					case CraftResource.Verite: difficulty = 95.0; break;
					case CraftResource.Valorite: difficulty = 99.0; break;
				}

				if (difficulty > from.Skills[SkillName.Mining].Value)
					return SmeltResult.NoSkill;

I guess the answer could be that RunUO is just wrong and that the difficulty table applied to ore only, but it seemed worth checking.

[Derrick]

Thanks much for this post. I believe you're correct. We do have a check when smelting ore, but the smelting (recycling) of armor is missing this check. Will fix.