PURE DEXXER TOURNEY wtf?

[Atraxi]

Okay, seriously? I was at the "PURE DEXXER TOURNEY", watching 2 tank mages duel.

wtf?!

How are "tank mage fest" and "pure dexxer tourney" at all related?

[Huzke]

I went to spectate that tourney thinking I was going to see something new, instead I just watched sandro plow through a couple pissed off people thinking they were there to fight other dexers and a couple other tank mages.

[Panthor the Hated]

the rules of the tourny actually favor mages strongly. no poisoned weaps wipes out most nox fencers and you can carry tons of reds for the macers. no magics ect..

little ironic but the idea of such a tourny is good

[Panthor the Hated]

the pure dexer tourny isnt new.

first time i saw it was in 2009, when i pwned tt's nox fencer. no poisoned weaps was awesome for that first tourny cuz no mages joined

[SoundofGod]

"Pure Dexxer" = High Dex, Low Int.
The fact Sandro and others were even allowed in the tournement makes no sense.
You would have to set a gate that only allows those with high dex in the tournement.
that would also work for a "Pure Mage" Tourney. No more Drax vs. BeatingU finales.

[son]

What are you talking about, this is uosa we all have high dex mages

[SoundofGod]

What are you talking about, this is uosa we all have high dex mages

My mistake, i didn't know "we all" had a mage with 70+ Dex.

[Malaikat]

Long live the medi-dexer.

[Berock Shagando]

after reading these posts, i still don't see how a mage was even allowed to participate in a "pure dexxer tourney" Wouldn't the name suggest a melee battle? Any other tourney limits everything that gives a fighter an advantage as Panthor sais. No magic weaps, no poisoned weapons, no potions....But where are the tourneys limiting mages? If "pure dexxer" isn't it, their isn't one.

[Panthor the Hated]

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Honestly Berock, I get where you're coming from but you're wrong. If you aren't used to events here, then it may seem reasonable that a pure dexer tourny would exclude any non dexers. As you're here awhile and experience more events you'll find that shard-wide events never exclude players based on their chars stats or skills. This is integral to the UO t2a era experience, you are all in the same environment the only thing that separates the winners from the losers are how effectively they play their template within the established environment.

That being said, given that the rules for this tourny actually favor mages -- quiet strongly, they should be adjusted to appropriately favor pure dexers.

[Sandro]

I am a pure dexer

[Berock Shagando]

This is integral to the UO t2a era experience, you are all in the same environment the only thing that separates the winners from the losers are how effectively they play their template within the established environment.

I have to respectfully disagree with you there. I'm pretty new to the shard, but I played in era. I've only ever attended 1 tourney on UOSA, but I do experience the PVP from time to time being attacked by PKs. What I realized back then in era as well as here (since UOSA emulates it so well) is that there is one template that dominates over all templates. The Hally Mage or well, Tank Mage as Ive seen mages use several weapons. These tourneys are dominated by them. This doesn't show how effectively people play their templates. It shows how effective Tank Mages play theirs. Theres no competing with them. I'm not saying I play my dexxer as effectively as I could. I know that I do not. But even if I did, as I did back in era, I would still have a hard time with a Tank Mage who knows what hes doing, not to mention 2 or 3 of them. I need to get all my hotkeys set up. That would help me out alot. It cripples me lol.

That being said, given that the rules for this tourny actually favor mages -- quiet strongly, they should be adjusted to appropriately favor pure dexers.

Yeah like maybe no magic use? Thats one that would favor dexxers. A mage would be useless in this kind of fight. There could be one for using magic weapons, armor, clothing, and potions but no scrolls. More of who has the better gear. And then one where magic items can't be used. Any dexxer could compete in these fights and have a chance to win at least one match. Im sure alot more folks would attend these as I see alot of warriors around the shard. Also bring a little business to the smiths of the shard. The guys that just use the magic gear they loot would buy gm gear in order to participate.

[SoundofGod]

...shard-wide events never exclude players based on their chars stats or skills. .

What is the difference in tournys, if everyone is eligible?

It seems simple to assume that a "1v1 Tournement" is different than a "Pure Dexxer" tournement.

What does "Pure Dexxer" mean, then?

[Panthor the Hated]

Well clearly pure dexer actually means nothing in this case, and is a bit of a joke. Though I assume it was well intentioned.

Berock, while tank mages are dominant its because its an extremely flexible template that is viable in virtually all situations. I stand by my previous statements on the era. A recent example of this fact is the 'dexer' that dominated the 1v1 no pot tournys and the magic/pot tournys for several months.

http://my.uosecondage.com/Status/Player/80269

Sound of God, the 1v1 and 1v1 non-Free use are generally the "mages domain" but are not technically mages only. They don't allow the use of magic weapons or armor, pots are disabled and you cannot poison weapons. These factors make it hard for a dexer to compete with most mages.

I'm not real sure we should have a "pure dexxer" tourny, we have the magics, pots, poisons and the crafted, pots, poisons which cater to dexxers just fine. The biggest issue I see is unlimited hunger in tournys. This gives hally mages an inaccurate advantage over any macer template whether it be a mage or dexer. Pretty stupid IMO. The only excuse I've heard is that fights last longer when hunger isn't infinite, which may be true but who cares? Why is that a valid reason for inaccurate mechanics?

[Berock Shagando]

unlimited hunger? Im unsure what this hunger is all about. Ive always heard all sorts of different claims as to what hunger does and doesn't affect and they all contradict each other. I've never really asked and kind of ignore food unless i loot it off of something in which case is consumed immediately. Not to sidetrack the topic...