How do you get a "practice bow"? Not by making a new char...

[Drywall8]

I have searched all over and can not find this answer.

How do i get a practice bow or any weapon for that matter. According to the second age wiki if you start with archery as a skill on a new character you get a "practice bow" that does 2-8 damage. However it is a real bow that 3 shot kills a fighter so its almost impossible to spar with. Arms lore should generate a random practice weapon but it just makes a real weapon as well.

Links to the info i found.
Starting equipment
http://wiki.uosecondage.com/Starting_Equipment
Weapon stats
http://www.uosecondage.com/stratics/arms.html

So whats going on here am i doing something wrong, is the wiki inaccurate, or does this post need to go in era accuracy?

Last any tips on a good way to gm archery preferably via macro?

[Jill Stihl]

AFAIK there aren't 'Practice Weapons' here, just newbied versions of the real thing.

I usually raise archery on an order guard - Plant a small house near an outpost, lure a guard in, trap behind a table barrier and fire away. You need a character to heal the order guard though as they no longer heal themselves.

[son]

Yep I remember these well.

[Pirul]

Polar Bears!!!

(need vet tho)

[Downs]

AFAIK there aren't 'Practice Weapons' here, just newbied versions of the real thing.

I usually raise archery on an order guard - Plant a small house near an outpost, lure a guard in, trap behind a table barrier and fire away. You need a character to heal the order guard though as they no longer heal themselves.

fyi that is horrible for gains. they parry a lot, so your tactics take forever to raise. fighter, paladin or polar bear is far quicker

[Mikel123]

I find the blade spirits still work real well.

[Drywall8]

Thank you for the advice on how to raise archery but what i really want to know is WTF is up with the practice weapons not showing up on new chars.

[SighelmofWyrmgard]

I find the blade spirits still work real well.

This; I think some people forgot the OP wants to raise archery ...

Yes, Blade Spirits are great for training, but buy a crap bow from the NPC bowyer, instead of using your newbie bow: while your skill raises, the bow gets worn out, so you can continue to achieve maximum skill-gain (at least until the bow breaks).

I am enlightened: I didn't realize that we didn't have the "practice versions" as our newbie weapons; DPed newbie daggers are even more valuable than I had supposed!

SS

[Sandro]

fyi that is horrible for gains. they parry a lot, so your tactics take forever to raise. fighter, paladin or polar bear is far quicker

damage doesn't affect the rate at which tactics gains

[nightshark]

pretty sure practice weapons are era accurate and we just don't have them

[Drywall8]

they need to change the wiki then

[Panthor the Hated]

they need to change the wiki then

wat

You know you can edit the wiki right?

[Downs]

fyi that is horrible for gains. they parry a lot, so your tactics take forever to raise. fighter, paladin or polar bear is far quicker

damage doesn't affect the rate at which tactics gains

you only gain tactics on a sucessfull hit. a npc who parries = more unsucessfull hits and less chances to gain

[Rammar]

you only gain tactics on a sucessfull hit. a npc who parries = more unsucessfull hits and less chances to gain

I'm pretty sure a parried hit is still considered "successful" (as in not missed) and will still gain tactics. Out of curiosity I just tried it with a newb and still gained tactics (from ~0) on parried blows.

[Sandro]

I'm pretty sure a parried hit is still considered "successful" (as in not missed) and will still gain tactics. Out of curiosity I just tried it with a newb and still gained tactics (from ~0) on parried blows.

Good job knowing your mechanics.

Downs, better luck next time.