Fishing

[Raiko98]

I find it amusing that a thread would be closed simply because players are relaying information regarding how off the mib pull rate is. Its down right ridiculous, and not era accurate. I have given up on the staff who I appreciate and am grateful for creating this shard listening to fisherman and their data. They insist the rate is one per hour, but not one single fisherman has posted a rate remotely close to this. I purpose that a staff member creates a char at the gm level and has them fish for 24 hours in game and posts their results. I have fished for nearly 24 hours in the past 3 days and have 5 mibs to show for it, that is no where near era accurate. I appreciate the server and all that the staff does, but to alienate an entire group of individuals who enjoy fishing is just ridiculous.

[Pat]

It would be even dumber if it was extremely easy to sit out in the middle ocean and farm with hardly any risk. Plus fishing is abused via unattended macroing so it would be a good thing for it to have a lower drop rate.

[Raiko98]

It would be even dumber if it was extremely easy to sit out in the middle ocean and farm with hardly any risk. Plus fishing is abused via unattended macroing so it would be a good thing for it to have a lower drop rate.

Perhaps you should spend hours on the sea as I do before sharing your uneducated opinion. I dont think fisherman should get 5 mibs per hour, however if the staff states the rate is one per hour one should rightfully expect something near 1. Not a single fisherman has had results anywhere near one per hour. As far as risk is concerned I agree there is very little risk, however dont blame fisherman for that. The seas are open and my fisherman has tracking so I can find other players, you have that very same option. So it is not a fishermans fault that pks camp destard and liches. You need to remind yourself that not every player is geared towards pvp. In fact that is the problem, this is a pvp shard, I appreciate risk and rewards alike, however it seems if pvp is not involved it means nothing. This is simply to point out that the current rate is not one per hour and furthermore not era accurate. If I could fish for 5 hours and pull 4 mibs I would be more than happy.

[Arkosh Kovasz]

I find it amusing that a thread would be closed simply because players are relaying information regarding how off the mib pull rate is. Its down right ridiculous, and not era accurate. I have given up on the staff who I appreciate and am grateful for creating this shard listening to fisherman and their data. They insist the rate is one per hour, but not one single fisherman has posted a rate remotely close to this. I purpose that a staff member creates a char at the gm level and has them fish for 24 hours in game and posts their results. I have fished for nearly 24 hours in the past 3 days and have 5 mibs to show for it, that is no where near era accurate. I appreciate the server and all that the staff does, but to alienate an entire group of individuals who enjoy fishing is just ridiculous.

So like 8 hours a day? Are you constantly moving? I get the "fish don't seem to be biting here" message rather quickly so I constantly have to move.

I think alot of people have incorporated "move" commands in their fishing macros, which allows them to fish alot more efficiently, than if you had to keep noticing that that the "fish aren't biting".

I'm just bringing it up because if the majority of those 24 hours in 3 days was spent with you not moving around much, I can easily see that you've only fished up 5 in that amount of time.

[Raiko98]

I am constantly moving, and my macro checks for system messages. I may lose 2 casts to the fish not biting but that doesn't account for the extremely low mib pull rate or the rates others are experiencing.

[akumaizer]

I was a vocal critic of the patch, but Derrick clearly stated that it was reverted to where it was before and I have no reason not to believe him. Fished for two hours today and got two MIBs and 1 T-Map.

I think the problem is that no one who is doing well is posting here, only people who are doing poor. As all GM fishers know, there are your good days and your bad days.

[Pat]

It would be even dumber if it was extremely easy to sit out in the middle ocean and farm with hardly any risk. Plus fishing is abused via unattended macroing so it would be a good thing for it to have a lower drop rate.

Perhaps you should spend hours on the sea as I do before sharing your uneducated opinion. I dont think fisherman should get 5 mibs per hour, however if the staff states the rate is one per hour one should rightfully expect something near 1. Not a single fisherman has had results anywhere near one per hour. As far as risk is concerned I agree there is very little risk, however dont blame fisherman for that. The seas are open and my fisherman has tracking so I can find other players, you have that very same option. So it is not a fishermans fault that pks camp destard and liches. You need to remind yourself that not every player is geared towards pvp. In fact that is the problem, this is a pvp shard, I appreciate risk and rewards alike, however it seems if pvp is not involved it means nothing. This is simply to point out that the current rate is not one per hour and furthermore not era accurate. If I could fish for 5 hours and pull 4 mibs I would be more than happy.

Dont see how it was a "uneducated" opinion. Im saying that there should be proper risk vs reward. The last server i played on failed and fishing played a huge part in that failure. Fishing gave people way to much, way to easy and then the shard was overflowing with magic gear... chain reactions and the shard died.

Having 2 characters running a fishing macro on your boat while you bank sit/pvp/craft on your 3rd account is no challenge at all; therefore there should be less profit in it. However, I have heard my friends saying that they pull in tons of mibs when they go out fishing... so perhaps your macro is failing while your not home....

[Raiko98]

It would be even dumber if it was extremely easy to sit out in the middle ocean and farm with hardly any risk. Plus fishing is abused via unattended macroing so it would be a good thing for it to have a lower drop rate.

Perhaps you should spend hours on the sea as I do before sharing your uneducated opinion. I dont think fisherman should get 5 mibs per hour, however if the staff states the rate is one per hour one should rightfully expect something near 1. Not a single fisherman has had results anywhere near one per hour. As far as risk is concerned I agree there is very little risk, however dont blame fisherman for that. The seas are open and my fisherman has tracking so I can find other players, you have that very same option. So it is not a fishermans fault that pks camp destard and liches. You need to remind yourself that not every player is geared towards pvp. In fact that is the problem, this is a pvp shard, I appreciate risk and rewards alike, however it seems if pvp is not involved it means nothing. This is simply to point out that the current rate is not one per hour and furthermore not era accurate. If I could fish for 5 hours and pull 4 mibs I would be more than happy.

Dont see how it was a "uneducated" opinion. Im saying that there should be proper risk vs reward. The last server i played on failed and fishing played a huge part in that failure. Fishing gave people way to much, way to easy and then the shard was overflowing with magic gear... chain reactions and the shard died.

Having 2 characters running a fishing macro on your boat while you bank sit/pvp/craft on your 3rd account is no challenge at all; therefore there should be less profit in it. However, I have heard my friends saying that they pull in tons of mibs when they go out fishing... so perhaps your macro is failing while your not home....

Not to flame you, but I have 1 fisherman, and I do not bank sit or craft. However the other server you played is not this server and in an attempt to remain era accurate I simply post my findings. Also since the patch you can look at the unique ip login and see a decline in active players on unique ips, regardless I spoke with derrick and as the other poster said I have no reason not to believe him, he came to my boat tested the waters ect.. perhaps I am having an extremely long slump who knows, but I will continue to fish. Also OP said the people having great days arent posting and I agree, I just want the shard to do well and population to increase. Era accuracy means more than just PvP pat keep that in mind.

[Smelly Ira]

Not to flame you, but I have 1 fisherman, and I do not bank sit or craft. However the other server you played is not this server and in an attempt to remain era accurate I simply post my findings. Also since the patch you can look at the unique ip login and see a decline in active players on unique ips, regardless I spoke with derrick and as the other poster said I have no reason not to believe him, he came to my boat tested the waters ect.. perhaps I am having an extremely long slump who knows, but I will continue to fish. Also OP said the people having great days arent posting and I agree, I just want the shard to do well and population to increase. Era accuracy means more than just PvP pat keep that in mind.

I don't think it's just the fishing patch responsible for some players being inactive/quitting...we could debate what causes it, but i think it's safe to say there is more involved there than fishing changes.

As far as era accuracy being more than pvp...dude, I remember when they changed to single cut bandages heh..they definitely are concerned with more than just pvp, there are a million examples of changes made based on era accuracy that have nothing to do with pvp.

[Raiko98]

Not to flame you, but I have 1 fisherman, and I do not bank sit or craft. However the other server you played is not this server and in an attempt to remain era accurate I simply post my findings. Also since the patch you can look at the unique ip login and see a decline in active players on unique ips, regardless I spoke with derrick and as the other poster said I have no reason not to believe him, he came to my boat tested the waters ect.. perhaps I am having an extremely long slump who knows, but I will continue to fish. Also OP said the people having great days arent posting and I agree, I just want the shard to do well and population to increase. Era accuracy means more than just PvP pat keep that in mind.

I don't think it's just the fishing patch responsible for some players being inactive/quitting...we could debate what causes it, but i think it's safe to say there is more involved there than fishing changes.

As far as era accuracy being more than pvp...dude, I remember when they changed to single cut bandages heh..they definitely are concerned with more than just pvp, there are a million examples of changes made based on era accuracy that have nothing to do with pvp.

I couldnt agree more, as I said I spoke with derrick and 90 percent of what the staff deals with is non-pvp related, I am just presenting scenarios or possible reasons. I have no reason not to believe derrick and I will continue to fish and better days will come in better seas.

[BlackFoot]

Its hard to believe a few peoples 'perfect laboratory quality examples' and take them as fact as entire system of hundreds of players results.

[Unstablecorn]

I don't know. I have been doing lots of fishing the last week or so and I find that the MiB pull rate is almost right on the money.

[Arcott Ramathorn]

I dont usually read patch notes and such..i play very casually. Fishing is something i've been doing for a while on this server and i noticed when it took a dive. I chalked it up to bad luck which happens while fishing. After a while it seemed so bad i checked for patches, sure enough a fishing nerf. I dont know what it was like on OSI but if its accurate ...its accurate. I think thats the question. Is this what fishing was like in 1999?

[Direwolf]

honestly, I spent a week or more to GM fishing, I am new to this shard, and I haven't gotten an MIB yet after like 4 hours of fishing after getting 100. Derrick is refusing to budge on everyone's results of 1 in 2-3 hours. Seems kind of weird to me, he intentionally nerfed it and now its not working properly but he refuses to see that. I don't understand why. I mean, I'm about to give up on fishing and this shard too. It's not era-accurate. Everyone says this and knows this, but the programmers of this shard don't want to listen. I just don't get it. What is the big problem with adjusting the nerf? Just tweak it back a little. Give us some kind of fun fishing besides fish and boots. We do this for fun right? It shouldn't be a job and so hard to get an MIB. I keep checking my character profile and it does say "Grandmaster Fisherman" however the shard is not acting like it at all. I mean fish and boots is not what GM fisherman used to get.

[Direwolf]

I was around during the T2A era, back in the day, and MIB's were fished up about every 15 mins. Not one per hour as the target, and certainly not one in 2-3+ hours. Doesn't seem right at all. Really sad.