Warning to players Matron real estate scams
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:13 pm
Basically the deal was 2 5 pt trophies and a vanq long spear for a placed large brick. I will now post the IRC logs from both Matron and Tabius.
17:48:10] Matron[cA]: How many trophies, how much are you looking for each, and I do have a brick
[17:51:34] Raiko: 2 5pts
[17:51:44] Raiko: i just really wanna bigger house
[17:51:54] Raiko: small is too small
[17:52:21] Raiko: id like to work something out to get a large brick out of it
[17:53:01] Matron[cA]: Well, those 5 points are selling for roughly 70k ea
[17:53:10] Matron[cA]: I think a brick is a bit more than that for the deed alone
[17:53:15] Matron[cA]: and I assume you want a placed one?
[17:53:30] Raiko: well the deed or placed, like i said i am ok with creative solutions
[17:54:01] Matron[cA]: You do know it would be hard to place one right?
[17:54:13] Raiko: i have a spot for one, just not enough gold for the deed
[17:54:25] Raiko: all my wealth is tied up in vanqs and armor and mr items
[17:54:31] Raiko: i dont have a vendor to sell them on
[17:54:43] Raiko: so i know people like the trophies for the silver
[17:57:09] Matron[cA]: Well I have a placed brick
[17:57:16] Matron[cA]: but I would want like 10k over deed for it
[17:59:18] Raiko: so trohpies and 10k?
[17:59:40] Matron[cA]: the brick deed is 144k, trophies are 70 ea
[17:59:42] Matron[cA]: 15k
[17:59:45] Matron[cA]: er
[17:59:47] Matron[cA]: 14
[17:59:53] Raiko: i can do that
[18:00:02] Matron[cA]: I'll take a decent fence weapon inplace of the 14k though
[18:00:08] Raiko: what do you want?
[18:00:20] Matron[cA]: A nice long spear?
[18:00:26] Raiko: sure vanq ok?
[18:00:32] Matron[cA]: ya
[18:00:41] Raiko: where is the brick located?
[18:00:47] Raiko: spawn pvp remote?
[18:00:53] Matron[cA]: Outside brit
[18:00:56] Matron[cA]: its pretty remote
[18:00:59] Raiko: awesome
[18:01:06] Raiko: sounds great
[18:01:17] Raiko: give me a sec to see what kinda long spears i have
[18:01:23] Raiko: ill let you choose
[18:02:32] Matron[cA]: Something with tactics, +15 p/v is fine
[18:05:51] Raiko: k let me look
[18:07:53] Raiko: how about fort +15 vanq
[18:08:07] Matron[cA]: Durability is nice too
[18:08:11] Matron[cA]: Yeah that sounds good
[18:08:26] Raiko: if this goes well i will come to you with my magic items and weaps
[18:08:30] Raiko: i have invis and mr items
[18:08:35] Raiko: lots of vanqs
[18:09:12] Matron[cA]: Do you want to see the house?
[18:09:27] Raiko: yes sir
[18:09:48] Matron[cA]: Where are you at?
[18:10:02] Raiko: i can meet you anywere
[18:10:25] Matron[cA]: moonglow bank?
[18:10:32] Raiko: sure ill be on Jacob
[18:25:47] Raiko: you scammed me
[18:25:58] Matron[cA]: ?
[18:26:05] Raiko: no house transfer
[18:26:12] Raiko: why?
[18:26:31] Matron[cA]: He gave me the items, he didnt transfer house?
[18:26:53] Raiko: no
[18:26:55] Raiko: he didnt
[18:27:05] Raiko: this is lame...i thought you guys were legit...
[18:28:11] Raiko: why did you guys scam me?
[18:28:21] Matron[cA]: I did not scam you
[18:28:35] Raiko: well talk to brother tib and come back to the house....
[18:28:38] Matron[cA]: Ask tabius to transfer it
[18:28:50] Matron[cA]: Send him a pm in irc
[18:28:51] Matron[cA]: he is tabius
[18:28:53] Raiko: i did he ran off and said KA always wins
[18:30:05] Raiko: so you now have my items and i have no house...i will warn other players about this
[18:30:16] Raiko: ty for your time and hope you enjoy the scammed items
[18:31:27] Matron[cA]: Im trying to talk to tabius now but hes ignoring me
[18:31:46] Raiko: he wont respond to me either...i was set up i guess
[18:41:09] Raiko: nice scam matron
[18:41:15] Matron[cA]: What scam?
[18:41:23] Raiko: the one you and tabius just did
[18:41:39] Raiko: i dont want to talk crap, it is what it is but definately not cool
[18:41:50] Raiko: if its not a scam why did you guys not transfer the house?
[18:42:00] Matron[cA]: I dont own the house anymore
[18:42:05] Matron[cA]: tabius owns it
[18:42:12] Matron[cA]: and he wont reply
[18:42:14] Raiko: why didnt he transfer it to me then? that was the deal correct?
[18:42:47] Matron[cA]: I dont know, he's one of the most trustworthy people here
[18:42:51] Matron[cA]: Im sure theres some reason
[18:43:12] Raiko: did i hold up my end of the bargin?
[18:43:25] Matron[cA]: Yeah
[18:43:27] Raiko: if you want to make this right then make it right and deal with him
[18:43:39] Matron[cA]: Im trying to reach him
[18:43:40] Raiko: if not just say so and we will part and have no more dealings
[18:46:39] Raiko: im going to post our chat logs to reflect the scam that took place
[18:46:58] Matron[cA]: ok
[18:47:16] Raiko: so you do admit you scammed me?
[18:47:21] Matron[cA]: no
[18:47:27] Matron[cA]: I did nothing wrong
[18:47:40] Raiko: well, then why do i have no house and you have my items
[18:47:48] Raiko: i held up my end you did not
[18:47:52] Raiko: thats a scam sir
[18:48:15] Matron[cA]: We were scammed by a third party
[18:49:12] Raiko: You are the owner of the fake char according to tabius
[18:49:21] Raiko: you are the scammer and you have my items
[18:49:26] Matron[cA]: I dont own any fake characters
[18:49:41] Matron[cA]: Of course tabius will tell you that
[18:51:21] Raiko: and ofcourse you scamming me you would blame him
[18:51:48] Matron[cA]: I am done being accused
[18:53:17] Raiko: then return my items and get your house back from tabius if you dont want to be accused of scamming
[19:04:17] Matron[cA] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100315083431]).
Here is Tabius:
[18:30:39] Raiko: sir you failed to transfer the house to me
[18:30:44] Raiko: can you please do so?
[18:32:12] Raiko: you brokered a trade yet never transfered me the house sir
[18:32:21] Raiko: can you please do so? or return my items to me?
[18:44:55] Raiko: i am waiting for you at skara bank
[18:45:09] Raiko: please transfer the house per the deal you brokered, your reputation is on the line
[18:48:02] Tabius: contact matron[ca] the owner of the fake Brother Tabius
[18:48:19] Raiko: really????
[18:48:20] Tabius: sorry that you got caught out by them, but you should always talk to me first in here prior to making deals
[18:48:35] Tabius: the real brother tabius is Brother Tabius, Guildmaster $$$
[18:48:44] Tabius: he uses a fake one that says TBA as teh guild title
[18:48:50] Tabius: check the players online at the website
[18:48:55] Raiko: gotcha
[18:49:21] Tabius: i also have my title at a certain level, as a 3rd defence against scamming
[18:49:24] Tabius: if people arnt sure
[18:49:30] Tabius: and im sure that guy wasnt any title, just normal
[18:50:12] Raiko: well, he says your a scammer in pms and you say him i just know that i lost alot of stuff and didnt get myhouse
[18:51:40] Tabius: check my post about brokering,
[18:51:49] Tabius: ive brokered 3 million gold plus deals
[18:51:53] Tabius: its a shame you fell for him
[18:51:57] Tabius: you should always message me first
[18:52:00] Raiko: listen, i know you have an amazing reputation
[18:52:00] Tabius: prior to any trade
[18:52:10] Raiko: this was my first time on irc
[18:52:33] Tabius: http://my.uosecondage.com/Status/Player/132407 - that is the fake brother tabius that matron used to get you
[18:52:36] Tabius: follow that link
[18:52:39] Tabius: im sure that is the one
[18:52:41] Raiko: when i told my guildies some of whome witnessed a char that looks like you running from the scene saying KA ALWAYS WINS
[18:52:48] Raiko: were shocked because your well respected
[18:56:12] Tabius: yeah well, all you need to do is come to brit bank
[18:56:17] Tabius: and see what the real brother tabius looks like
[18:56:20] Tabius: the correct guild
[18:56:22] Tabius: the correct title
[18:56:23] Tabius: mounts
[18:56:23] Tabius: etc
[18:57:08] Tabius: its a real shame that someone impersonates brokers to cheat out new players
[18:57:15] Tabius: there are fake Brother Tabius's, Blackfoots, Wises
[18:57:23] Tabius: its all insane how far they go
[18:57:29] Tabius: always first, message them in irc
[18:57:39] Tabius: 2. find otu what mount im on
[18:57:41] Tabius: that always changes
[18:57:52] Tabius: its a way to make sure ur not being scammed
[18:58:34] Raiko: good tips, but no offense aftet this i will just make do with my bank
[18:58:40] Raiko: i dont need a house
[18:58:43] Raiko: its to risky
[18:58:46] Tabius: place your own homes
[18:58:49] Tabius: its alot easier
[18:58:55] Tabius: what size house was it that you got scammed for?
[18:58:59] Tabius: large or small
[18:59:05] Raiko: large brick
[18:59:09] Tabius: darn it
[18:59:13] Tabius: thats 145k gone
[18:59:17] Tabius: plus what ever extra you paid
[18:59:21] Raiko: plus a vanq long spear
[18:59:22] Tabius: what an asshole thing to do to a new player
[18:59:40] Tabius: i hope you get back on your feet asap
[18:59:44] Tabius: let me know if i can help out
[18:59:53] Tabius: anyone in $$$ can get you in contact with me if ur not on irc
[19:00:07] Raiko: sure thing
[19:00:21] Tabius: <Matron[cA]> I just want to point out that we didnt use your name, so you can get off the soap box
[19:00:22] Tabius: <Matron[cA]> I dont know why that guy said tabius, i think to legitimize that he was scammed
[19:00:28] Tabius: just fyi, sent to me by matron
[19:00:35] Raiko: i am going to post the pm logs from irc that i had with martron and you
[19:00:38] Raiko: is that ok?
[19:00:43] Tabius: i dont mind
[19:00:47] Raiko: ty
[19:00:52] Raiko: it makes sense
[19:00:57] Raiko: but they did use your name
[19:01:06] Tabius: just in future make sure you always talk to me
[19:01:10] Raiko: i will
[19:01:12] Raiko: thanks
[19:01:16] Tabius: dont ever trade in game first
[19:01:31] Tabius: did you talk to matron and they said to use tabius?
[19:01:33] Tabius: in ric?
[19:01:34] Tabius: irc
[19:01:36] Tabius: or was it all in game?
[19:02:46] Raiko: just matron in irc
[19:02:51] Raiko: tabius was in game
[19:02:59] Raiko: but my journal didnt go back far enough
[19:03:05] Tabius: i think im going to have to make a post in the forums regarding how to use me
[19:03:05] Raiko: KA guildmembers witnessed it
[19:03:14] Raiko: at skara bank
[19:03:23] Tabius: want me to come to skara?
[19:03:27] Tabius: so u can see what i look like
[19:03:31] Raiko: would you do that?
[19:03:37] Tabius: of course ic an
A lot to read but this is only meant to help new players avoid being scammed by shady individuals.
17:48:10] Matron[cA]: How many trophies, how much are you looking for each, and I do have a brick
[17:51:34] Raiko: 2 5pts
[17:51:44] Raiko: i just really wanna bigger house
[17:51:54] Raiko: small is too small
[17:52:21] Raiko: id like to work something out to get a large brick out of it
[17:53:01] Matron[cA]: Well, those 5 points are selling for roughly 70k ea
[17:53:10] Matron[cA]: I think a brick is a bit more than that for the deed alone
[17:53:15] Matron[cA]: and I assume you want a placed one?
[17:53:30] Raiko: well the deed or placed, like i said i am ok with creative solutions
[17:54:01] Matron[cA]: You do know it would be hard to place one right?
[17:54:13] Raiko: i have a spot for one, just not enough gold for the deed
[17:54:25] Raiko: all my wealth is tied up in vanqs and armor and mr items
[17:54:31] Raiko: i dont have a vendor to sell them on
[17:54:43] Raiko: so i know people like the trophies for the silver
[17:57:09] Matron[cA]: Well I have a placed brick
[17:57:16] Matron[cA]: but I would want like 10k over deed for it
[17:59:18] Raiko: so trohpies and 10k?
[17:59:40] Matron[cA]: the brick deed is 144k, trophies are 70 ea
[17:59:42] Matron[cA]: 15k
[17:59:45] Matron[cA]: er
[17:59:47] Matron[cA]: 14
[17:59:53] Raiko: i can do that
[18:00:02] Matron[cA]: I'll take a decent fence weapon inplace of the 14k though
[18:00:08] Raiko: what do you want?
[18:00:20] Matron[cA]: A nice long spear?
[18:00:26] Raiko: sure vanq ok?
[18:00:32] Matron[cA]: ya
[18:00:41] Raiko: where is the brick located?
[18:00:47] Raiko: spawn pvp remote?
[18:00:53] Matron[cA]: Outside brit
[18:00:56] Matron[cA]: its pretty remote
[18:00:59] Raiko: awesome
[18:01:06] Raiko: sounds great
[18:01:17] Raiko: give me a sec to see what kinda long spears i have
[18:01:23] Raiko: ill let you choose
[18:02:32] Matron[cA]: Something with tactics, +15 p/v is fine
[18:05:51] Raiko: k let me look
[18:07:53] Raiko: how about fort +15 vanq
[18:08:07] Matron[cA]: Durability is nice too
[18:08:11] Matron[cA]: Yeah that sounds good
[18:08:26] Raiko: if this goes well i will come to you with my magic items and weaps
[18:08:30] Raiko: i have invis and mr items
[18:08:35] Raiko: lots of vanqs
[18:09:12] Matron[cA]: Do you want to see the house?
[18:09:27] Raiko: yes sir
[18:09:48] Matron[cA]: Where are you at?
[18:10:02] Raiko: i can meet you anywere
[18:10:25] Matron[cA]: moonglow bank?
[18:10:32] Raiko: sure ill be on Jacob
[18:25:47] Raiko: you scammed me
[18:25:58] Matron[cA]: ?
[18:26:05] Raiko: no house transfer
[18:26:12] Raiko: why?
[18:26:31] Matron[cA]: He gave me the items, he didnt transfer house?
[18:26:53] Raiko: no
[18:26:55] Raiko: he didnt
[18:27:05] Raiko: this is lame...i thought you guys were legit...
[18:28:11] Raiko: why did you guys scam me?
[18:28:21] Matron[cA]: I did not scam you
[18:28:35] Raiko: well talk to brother tib and come back to the house....
[18:28:38] Matron[cA]: Ask tabius to transfer it
[18:28:50] Matron[cA]: Send him a pm in irc
[18:28:51] Matron[cA]: he is tabius
[18:28:53] Raiko: i did he ran off and said KA always wins
[18:30:05] Raiko: so you now have my items and i have no house...i will warn other players about this
[18:30:16] Raiko: ty for your time and hope you enjoy the scammed items
[18:31:27] Matron[cA]: Im trying to talk to tabius now but hes ignoring me
[18:31:46] Raiko: he wont respond to me either...i was set up i guess
[18:41:09] Raiko: nice scam matron
[18:41:15] Matron[cA]: What scam?
[18:41:23] Raiko: the one you and tabius just did
[18:41:39] Raiko: i dont want to talk crap, it is what it is but definately not cool
[18:41:50] Raiko: if its not a scam why did you guys not transfer the house?
[18:42:00] Matron[cA]: I dont own the house anymore
[18:42:05] Matron[cA]: tabius owns it
[18:42:12] Matron[cA]: and he wont reply
[18:42:14] Raiko: why didnt he transfer it to me then? that was the deal correct?
[18:42:47] Matron[cA]: I dont know, he's one of the most trustworthy people here
[18:42:51] Matron[cA]: Im sure theres some reason
[18:43:12] Raiko: did i hold up my end of the bargin?
[18:43:25] Matron[cA]: Yeah
[18:43:27] Raiko: if you want to make this right then make it right and deal with him
[18:43:39] Matron[cA]: Im trying to reach him
[18:43:40] Raiko: if not just say so and we will part and have no more dealings
[18:46:39] Raiko: im going to post our chat logs to reflect the scam that took place
[18:46:58] Matron[cA]: ok
[18:47:16] Raiko: so you do admit you scammed me?
[18:47:21] Matron[cA]: no
[18:47:27] Matron[cA]: I did nothing wrong
[18:47:40] Raiko: well, then why do i have no house and you have my items
[18:47:48] Raiko: i held up my end you did not
[18:47:52] Raiko: thats a scam sir
[18:48:15] Matron[cA]: We were scammed by a third party
[18:49:12] Raiko: You are the owner of the fake char according to tabius
[18:49:21] Raiko: you are the scammer and you have my items
[18:49:26] Matron[cA]: I dont own any fake characters
[18:49:41] Matron[cA]: Of course tabius will tell you that
[18:51:21] Raiko: and ofcourse you scamming me you would blame him
[18:51:48] Matron[cA]: I am done being accused
[18:53:17] Raiko: then return my items and get your house back from tabius if you dont want to be accused of scamming
[19:04:17] Matron[cA] has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100315083431]).
Here is Tabius:
[18:30:39] Raiko: sir you failed to transfer the house to me
[18:30:44] Raiko: can you please do so?
[18:32:12] Raiko: you brokered a trade yet never transfered me the house sir
[18:32:21] Raiko: can you please do so? or return my items to me?
[18:44:55] Raiko: i am waiting for you at skara bank
[18:45:09] Raiko: please transfer the house per the deal you brokered, your reputation is on the line
[18:48:02] Tabius: contact matron[ca] the owner of the fake Brother Tabius
[18:48:19] Raiko: really????
[18:48:20] Tabius: sorry that you got caught out by them, but you should always talk to me first in here prior to making deals
[18:48:35] Tabius: the real brother tabius is Brother Tabius, Guildmaster $$$
[18:48:44] Tabius: he uses a fake one that says TBA as teh guild title
[18:48:50] Tabius: check the players online at the website
[18:48:55] Raiko: gotcha
[18:49:21] Tabius: i also have my title at a certain level, as a 3rd defence against scamming
[18:49:24] Tabius: if people arnt sure
[18:49:30] Tabius: and im sure that guy wasnt any title, just normal
[18:50:12] Raiko: well, he says your a scammer in pms and you say him i just know that i lost alot of stuff and didnt get myhouse
[18:51:40] Tabius: check my post about brokering,
[18:51:49] Tabius: ive brokered 3 million gold plus deals
[18:51:53] Tabius: its a shame you fell for him
[18:51:57] Tabius: you should always message me first
[18:52:00] Raiko: listen, i know you have an amazing reputation
[18:52:00] Tabius: prior to any trade
[18:52:10] Raiko: this was my first time on irc
[18:52:33] Tabius: http://my.uosecondage.com/Status/Player/132407 - that is the fake brother tabius that matron used to get you
[18:52:36] Tabius: follow that link
[18:52:39] Tabius: im sure that is the one
[18:52:41] Raiko: when i told my guildies some of whome witnessed a char that looks like you running from the scene saying KA ALWAYS WINS
[18:52:48] Raiko: were shocked because your well respected
[18:56:12] Tabius: yeah well, all you need to do is come to brit bank
[18:56:17] Tabius: and see what the real brother tabius looks like
[18:56:20] Tabius: the correct guild
[18:56:22] Tabius: the correct title
[18:56:23] Tabius: mounts
[18:56:23] Tabius: etc
[18:57:08] Tabius: its a real shame that someone impersonates brokers to cheat out new players
[18:57:15] Tabius: there are fake Brother Tabius's, Blackfoots, Wises
[18:57:23] Tabius: its all insane how far they go
[18:57:29] Tabius: always first, message them in irc
[18:57:39] Tabius: 2. find otu what mount im on
[18:57:41] Tabius: that always changes
[18:57:52] Tabius: its a way to make sure ur not being scammed
[18:58:34] Raiko: good tips, but no offense aftet this i will just make do with my bank
[18:58:40] Raiko: i dont need a house
[18:58:43] Raiko: its to risky
[18:58:46] Tabius: place your own homes
[18:58:49] Tabius: its alot easier
[18:58:55] Tabius: what size house was it that you got scammed for?
[18:58:59] Tabius: large or small
[18:59:05] Raiko: large brick
[18:59:09] Tabius: darn it
[18:59:13] Tabius: thats 145k gone
[18:59:17] Tabius: plus what ever extra you paid
[18:59:21] Raiko: plus a vanq long spear
[18:59:22] Tabius: what an asshole thing to do to a new player
[18:59:40] Tabius: i hope you get back on your feet asap
[18:59:44] Tabius: let me know if i can help out
[18:59:53] Tabius: anyone in $$$ can get you in contact with me if ur not on irc
[19:00:07] Raiko: sure thing
[19:00:21] Tabius: <Matron[cA]> I just want to point out that we didnt use your name, so you can get off the soap box
[19:00:22] Tabius: <Matron[cA]> I dont know why that guy said tabius, i think to legitimize that he was scammed
[19:00:28] Tabius: just fyi, sent to me by matron
[19:00:35] Raiko: i am going to post the pm logs from irc that i had with martron and you
[19:00:38] Raiko: is that ok?
[19:00:43] Tabius: i dont mind
[19:00:47] Raiko: ty
[19:00:52] Raiko: it makes sense
[19:00:57] Raiko: but they did use your name
[19:01:06] Tabius: just in future make sure you always talk to me
[19:01:10] Raiko: i will
[19:01:12] Raiko: thanks
[19:01:16] Tabius: dont ever trade in game first
[19:01:31] Tabius: did you talk to matron and they said to use tabius?
[19:01:33] Tabius: in ric?
[19:01:34] Tabius: irc
[19:01:36] Tabius: or was it all in game?
[19:02:46] Raiko: just matron in irc
[19:02:51] Raiko: tabius was in game
[19:02:59] Raiko: but my journal didnt go back far enough
[19:03:05] Tabius: i think im going to have to make a post in the forums regarding how to use me
[19:03:05] Raiko: KA guildmembers witnessed it
[19:03:14] Raiko: at skara bank
[19:03:23] Tabius: want me to come to skara?
[19:03:27] Tabius: so u can see what i look like
[19:03:31] Raiko: would you do that?
[19:03:37] Tabius: of course ic an
A lot to read but this is only meant to help new players avoid being scammed by shady individuals.