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IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:15 am
by hmmm
So, I probably got owned here, and my hopes of anything being done about this are slim but here it is.

MatronDeWinter Scammed me via IRC.

I was selling 4 Fall of Nuj'elm Statues/trophies and he offered me 20 level 5 Tmaps for them.

He gave me level 1 Tmaps, my bard with zero Cartography could decode them.

Here is the IRC log. If something can be done about this it would be greatly appreciated
[22:08:38] MatrondeWinter: ill buy it for 2 small house deeds
[22:08:58] Cad: someone has offered 200k for all 4
[22:09:06] Cad: pretty sure that's more than 2 smalls =p
[22:09:07] MatrondeWinter: oh you have 4
[22:09:11] Cad: yeah
[22:09:20] MatrondeWinter: um
[22:09:29] MatrondeWinter: lemme see how much gold i have, dont sell it
[22:09:33] Cad: k
[22:09:56] Cad: i'm pretty intrerested in level 5 tmaps, so if you got some it'd give you an edge
[22:10:10] MatrondeWinter: hey i have like 4037523 level 5 maps
[22:10:17] Cad: lol
[22:10:26] MatrondeWinter: Im serious, I made a cartographer
[22:10:36] MatrondeWinter: and bulk purchased level 5s back a year ago
[22:10:38] Cad: I have a gm cart also
[22:10:41] Cad: ah
[22:10:45] MatrondeWinter: and i realize that i dont enjoy maps
[22:10:47] MatrondeWinter: lol
[22:10:48] Cad: lmao
[22:11:05] Cad: how many you give me for the trophies?
[22:11:05] MatrondeWinter: What do you pay for maps? and Ill make you an offer
[22:11:11] Cad: level 5's?
[22:11:15] MatrondeWinter: yes
[22:11:16] Cad: i try to tay 10-12kish
[22:11:20] Cad: stay*
[22:11:36] Cad: but will pay 15k once in a while
[22:11:40] MatrondeWinter: meet in the middle at 11?
[22:12:08] Cad: so
[22:12:19] Cad: 20 for all 4 trophies?
[22:12:20] MatrondeWinter: Im thinking like 20 maps
[22:12:26] Cad: I can deal with that
[22:12:31] MatrondeWinter: awesome!
[22:12:46] Cad: and you are pretty prominent on the server so doubt I'd get punked by you selling me lower than 5's
[22:13:03] MatrondeWinter: People know who I am I guess
[22:13:06] Cad: lol
[22:13:13] MatrondeWinter: I try to help out on the forums ect
[22:13:15] Cad: where do you want to do this
[22:13:20] Cad: yeah I see that
[22:13:22] MatrondeWinter: when im not stealth-archering people
[22:13:24] MatrondeWinter: lol
[22:13:24] Cad: i'm still a tad new
[22:13:31] Cad: gettin there tho
[22:14:00] MatrondeWinter: wherever you want to meet
[22:14:03] MatrondeWinter: im bagging them up now
[22:14:31] MatrondeWinter: can u get to moonglow roof?
[22:16:20] Cad: not the roof, I am in moonglow, if I make a forum post selling for 20 level 5's will you buy it out on forums? just a cover my ass policy I wanna do
[22:18:24] Cad: nevermind, i just read that irc scamming is enforced
[22:18:40] MatrondeWinter: however you want to do it
[22:18:46] MatrondeWinter: im at mg, but cant get on roof either rofl
[22:18:51] Cad: lol
[22:19:07] MatrondeWinter: sometimes you can tele up between the slats
[22:19:07] Cad: I can get on trinsic roof and have a rune you can recall to
[22:19:16] MatrondeWinter: the west roof
[22:19:18] MatrondeWinter: or north?
[22:19:20] Cad: west
[22:19:23] MatrondeWinter: ok ill brt
[22:19:26] Cad: k
[22:19:54] Cad: nm
[22:19:55] Cad: north
[22:20:00] Cad: i'm fking tired
[22:20:00] Cad: lmao
[22:20:09] MatrondeWinter: ok no worries,
[22:20:11] Cad: k
[22:20:12] MatrondeWinter: i gotta run there give me sec
[22:20:15] Cad: k
[22:26:12] Cad: so if any of these turn out to not be level 5, I can take a screenshot to show you and you will replace?
[22:26:14] Cad: lol
[22:26:41] MatrondeWinter: i got em all before
[22:26:48] MatrondeWinter: they stopped saying what level they were
[22:26:50] MatrondeWinter: used to say like
[22:26:55] MatrondeWinter: a deviously drawn map
[22:32:20] Cad: those are all level 1 maps
[22:32:27] Cad: my bard with 0 cart can decode them
[22:32:50] MatrondeWinter: [00:32] <hicha> le pwnt
[22:33:58] Cad: Are you going to make good on the deal or Am I going to take this to the forums and to blackfoot/Derrick?
[22:34:42] MatrondeWinter: What do the forums have to do with our trade? I gave you level 5 maps for the trophies
[22:35:28] Cad: you did not
[22:35:32] Cad: you gave me level 1 maps
[22:35:40] MatrondeWinter: They were level 5
[22:35:51] MatrondeWinter: I packaged them into a special container before the map change
[22:35:58] Cad: a bard with zero cartography skill can not decode a level 2 3 4 or 5 map
[22:35:59] MatrondeWinter: I know what they were, dont try tricks with me
[22:36:34] Cad: that's ok, the ID's for the items are in game logs and can be found out via derrick, I will just go to him
[22:39:08] MatrondeWinter: a.) I gave you level 5 maps.
[22:39:10] MatrondeWinter: b.) Why do people always think they can say I scammed them just because I am a thief.
[22:39:11] MatrondeWinter: c.) Even if that wasnt the case (and I am innocent here), scamming is not against the rules.
[22:40:27] Cad: I don't have to prove anything when Derrick can look at the item's game ID in game that was in your posession then mine, and then see that my zero cart bard decoded the map and can decode every map in the pack along with most likely being able to tell if it is a level 1 or 5 map to begin with
[22:41:04] MatrondeWinter: But you already had plenty of time now to switch my level 5's out for level 1's
[22:41:19] MatrondeWinter: this is almost the exact scam that UOSAmerchant tried to pull on me with easter eggs the other day.
[22:41:44] Cad: he can see what items are what Matron, I'm not stupid and neither is he, every item in the game has a unique code ID
[22:42:09] Cad: go look at your level 5 maps, double click them with a char that has zero cart if you are honestly thinking you gave me level 5's
[22:42:25] MatrondeWinter: ok I will
[22:44:39] MatrondeWinter: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/353/map5n.jpg
[22:47:20] Cad: I wasn't born yesterday. I am just going to PM derrick, include a copy of this conversation and the timeframe/places so He can find out the details, if you gave me level 5's you have nothing to worry about

I doubt anything will be done about this, but I can hope I suppose.

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:32 am
by uofuntime
You both sound very convincing but it seems like you may have a grudge against cA:

http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic. ... 92#p149392

I am team Matron ♥ because this seems like a set up to me.

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:34 am
by Karik Verlee
I doubt it. If you got level 1s its a mistake. Shes an honest person. Helped me out last night for 20 minutes first time talking to her. I trust her completely.

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:34 am
by Kryptonical
hmmm wrote:I was selling 4 Fall of Nuj'elm Statues/trophies

Umm how'd you get 4?

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:38 am
by hmmm
meh, nothing against cA! really, i find their stories humorous and it's my friend who retames the sheep and brings them back to the house every few days not me, so just a mild inconvenience, but the post about it was fun =P

I don't expect anything to get done about it - I have rarely seen anything done about anything really on this server so my hopes aren't high and my playtime here probably won't be either because of it.

And My friends and i got a couple during the event and looted a couple from other peoples bone piles we came across.

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:04 am
by Downs
Here's an IRC log of you admitting to secretly be chum, matron, maahes, and felix:
[22:08:38] MatrondeWinter: hey who are you in game?
[22:08:58] Cad: I am chum, matron de winter, maahes, and felix
[22:09:06] Cad: i pwn in pvp regularly
[22:09:07] MatrondeWinter: wow thats crazy
[22:09:11] Cad: yeah

Look how easy that was!

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:28 am
by Pro
Well apart from the picture and obvious fact is was matron.


BAN.

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:18 am
by Wise
As much as I hate Archer Bots, I guess I will step up and defend Matron here since I know the rules
Unfortunate for you, but there is nothing you can do about this, you were 'legally' IRC Scammed,




http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=104

Trading should be conducted in #secondagetrade. Perpetrating scams may not be done in the main IRC channel or in #SecondAgeTrade. Save it for ingame or #SecondAgePVP. However don't assume that just because we have this rule people won't try to scam you in channel, but channel bans may be enforced after the fact.




so anything via private message is free game...


You should just know better then to trade with Matron :P

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:52 am
by Pat
I think matron scammed...

and whats with this line: "[22:32:50] MatrondeWinter: [00:32] <hicha> le pwnt"

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:24 am
by BenBrawl
lol, everyone knows matron scams...and thats the kinda noob scam heshe would pull

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:33 am
by Hrum
Ouch. Like wise said, doesnt look like anything can be done about it. But thats got to suck. Ah well, you were being shady to get 4 fall of nujelm trophies anyway, fgt.

Matron promised me a cake for hitting GM Lockpicking, but then just stole my mandrake. At first I cried, then I realized that I have fallen head over heels in love with himher.

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:09 am
by Krats
This one time at band camp Matron stole my flute .... :?

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:21 am
by Braden
As a general rule, do NOT conduct ANY trades in private chat or a channel other than the main IRC channel or #SecondageTrade.

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:31 am
by Rendar
Braden wrote:As a general rule, do NOT conduct ANY trades in private chat or a channel other than the main IRC channel or #SecondageTrade.

If someone scams on the trade forums, what happens to them?


Ex: I post on the trade forums selling house. Guy offers X amount, and I agree. We meet in game, he gives me money & I reacll away without transfering house.


Does anything happen to the scammer?

Just curious.

Re: IRC Scam

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:51 am
by Donk
They get banned from the forums like they would have gotten banned from MarkeeDragon (or similar sites) back in the day for being a scammer, but there's no in-game repercussions.