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Archery

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:12 pm
by bogdan
I was at 52.6 or 52.5, something like that... 225 arrows ( or around 1 hour or a little more) later im at 52.8. Pretty slow gains. Or is this normal?

Re: Archery

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:14 pm
by uofuntime
bogdan wrote:I was at 52.6 or 52.5, something like that... 225 arrows ( or around 1 hour or a little more) later im at 52.8. Pretty slow gains. Or is this normal?
What are you shooting? I can get 0.3 gains for about 10 arrows at that level just shooting monsters.

And wow are you training this on a mage? 225 shots per hour is 1 shot every 16 seconds!

I started a new archer and trained her from 50.0 to 60.0 archery by hunting various monsters. Used about 600-700 arrows? That's about a skill point every 6-7 arrows.

Re: Archery

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:25 pm
by bogdan
uofuntime wrote:
bogdan wrote:I was at 52.6 or 52.5, something like that... 225 arrows ( or around 1 hour or a little more) later im at 52.8. Pretty slow gains. Or is this normal?
What are you shooting? I can get 0.3 gains for about 10 arrows at that level just shooting monsters.

And wow are you training this on a mage? 225 shots per hour is 1 shot every 16 seconds!

I started a new archer and trained her from 50.0 to 60.0 archery by hunting various monsters. Used about 600-700 arrows? That's about a skill point every 6-7 arrows.
no mage, im not the best at macros. Im shooting a guy on my other account and healing him at the same time. But i can kill him in like 3 shots so i dis arm in my macro and heal in between.

i wanted to just macro archery, but maybe ill have to raise it as i play.

Re: Archery

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:31 pm
by uofuntime
bogdan wrote:
uofuntime wrote:
bogdan wrote:I was at 52.6 or 52.5, something like that... 225 arrows ( or around 1 hour or a little more) later im at 52.8. Pretty slow gains. Or is this normal?
What are you shooting? I can get 0.3 gains for about 10 arrows at that level just shooting monsters.

And wow are you training this on a mage? 225 shots per hour is 1 shot every 16 seconds!

I started a new archer and trained her from 50.0 to 60.0 archery by hunting various monsters. Used about 600-700 arrows? That's about a skill point every 6-7 arrows.
no mage, im not the best at macros. Im shooting a guy on my other account and healing him at the same time. But i can kill him in like 3 shots so i dis arm in my macro and heal in between.
Ooo... I have a GM archer but never macroed archery so I can't give you any advice, but I think people use order guards or blade spirits.

Re: Archery

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:32 pm
by Kordavox
Do yourself a favor; summon and shoot down Blade Spirits. Its a breeze.

Lock down 2 or 3 tables, use a mage to abs. targ the enclosed space, make sure your archer is the closest character to the summon spot and he will be attacked and respond. Your skill should shoot up really quick; have about 6k arrows on hand approximately.

Re: Archery

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:32 pm
by Arkosh Kovasz

Re: Archery

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:33 pm
by bogdan
uofuntime wrote:
bogdan wrote:
uofuntime wrote:
bogdan wrote:I was at 52.6 or 52.5, something like that... 225 arrows ( or around 1 hour or a little more) later im at 52.8. Pretty slow gains. Or is this normal?
What are you shooting? I can get 0.3 gains for about 10 arrows at that level just shooting monsters.

And wow are you training this on a mage? 225 shots per hour is 1 shot every 16 seconds!

I started a new archer and trained her from 50.0 to 60.0 archery by hunting various monsters. Used about 600-700 arrows? That's about a skill point every 6-7 arrows.
no mage, im not the best at macros. Im shooting a guy on my other account and healing him at the same time. But i can kill him in like 3 shots so i dis arm in my macro and heal in between.
Ooo... I have a GM archer but never macroed archery so I can't give you any advice, but I think people use paladins or blade spirits.
ya i tryd a hireling and they die way to easy..... i dont want to spend the money on reg for blade spirits.

Maybe ill just raise it by playing....

thanks for your info.....

Re: Archery

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:35 pm
by Kordavox
y..... i dont want to spend the money on reg for blade spirits.
I will tell you now; up until about 80 or 85 archery, 90 or 95 if you have 25 dex, a single BS will last for about 90-120 seconds. Anticipate using about 300 of each BS reg and that's an overestimation. That's only about 3-5k for regs.

And if you buy your arrows, you will use fewer on the spirit than you would leveling your archery naturally, not to mention the cost of recall regs to get to and from hunting sites and bank/house to restock on ammo.

Re: Archery

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:23 am
by bogdan
Kordavox wrote:
y..... i dont want to spend the money on reg for blade spirits.
I will tell you now; up until about 80 or 85 archery, 90 or 95 if you have 25 dex, a single BS will last for about 90-120 seconds. Anticipate using about 300 of each BS reg and that's an overestimation. That's only about 3-5k for regs.

And if you buy your arrows, you will use fewer on the spirit than you would leveling your archery naturally, not to mention the cost of recall regs to get to and from hunting sites and bank/house to restock on ammo.

thanks for the tips

Re: Archery

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:46 am
by Lazarus
I think its because you are using another character to train on. That doesn't really yield any gains. Either use a hired NPC and keep them healed, use a BS or the slow way - hunt. Thats what I'm doing.

Btw, if anyone needs *to buy* any arrows just pm me.

Re: Archery

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:52 am
by Heskey
Lazarus wrote:I think its because you are using another character to train on. That doesn't really yield any gains.
Yup that's the one - Was surprised no one suggested this earlier.

Sparring is a very ineffective way to gain skill, don't quote me but I think I read sparring is only 1/4 (25%) effective for skill gain.

Re: Archery

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:52 am
by tenduil
Follow the advise on using Blade Spirits. I thought killing mobs in a high spawn are would be good = wrong.

Blade spirits GM'd my archer in 2 days while barely even trying. It didn't require that many arrows either... and you should have a lumberjack/fletcher anyway.

Re: Archery

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:45 am
by RoboSamurai
6-7k arrows, 500 of each BS reg and a solid day + some.

Buy out a vendor, get them to 999 arrows - 3gp each.

30k to GM archery + a day and a bit..

Great PvM, good for chasing off solo tank mages, but not super viable alone in PvP.

Re: Archery

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:04 pm
by Karik Verlee
I just started an archer 3 days ago.

Currently I'm running the BS macro. Mage casts BS, Archer is closest character to the BS so the BS attacks archer, then it archer fires back. While this is going on Archer is Macroing Anatomy on the Mage. Did this for a few hours last night and am sitting on 68 archery and 40 tactics(started at 0).

But my question is what is the restock timer on fletchers. I've noticed its slower than mage's selling regs. What is the time for them to restock?

Re: Archery

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:31 pm
by RoboSamurai
Afaik, 30 minutes.