Blacksmith, min skills for weps

[poogoblin]

I'm not sure where we got the values for our skill levels needed to make certain weapons but our table doesn't even remotely match

http://web.archive.org/web/199910222311 ... m/blac.htm
under "blacksmithy" I remember once you hit katanas you'd ride them pretty much all the way to GM.

[archaicsubrosa77]

wrong link...

[poogoblin]

Killed wall of text due to zzyzx providing direct link...ty

[zzyzx]

Right click, copy link address.

http://web.archive.org/web/199910222311 ... m/blac.htm

[Kael]

What's the date on that? It's not on the page itself

[poogoblin]

Oct '99 is the link that you have to follow from Web Archive...for what it's worth this table aligns with my memory as well.(quit before UO:R).
I think the Blacksmithy we have here is more aligned with RunUO defaults or possibly demo(still can't figure how to connect to the stupid thing)?

[Kael]

I'm not saying you're wrong or that the page isn't from Oct 99, but frequently despite whichever date I click to go to UO Stratics on the Wayback Machine, the links from UO Stratics don't always open as that date.

Ex: This is the Oct, 12 1999 UO Stratics page, however click on Parry Essay, it's from 1/1/2000.

To be fair, the majority of the pages that do have dates are from before 10/12/1999. It's a great place to start, but it couldn't hurt to keep searching for information.

[poogoblin]

I too have noticed more up-to-date modifcation dates, though the blacksmithy doesn't have a date on it, the essay states:

The information is based on Client-Version 1.36 as of January 1999.

Also with that up-to-date modification dates on many of the essasys, you would think this would have been modified if it changed between Jan '99 and Jan '00

This essay confirms the tables, listing how to GM:

Maximum Skill Gain (Weapons)

1. At below 50% make mainly the following items:
* Weapons in the range of 10% - 20% above minimum skill.
* Be sure to mix the items and not only craft one type. Switch between easier and harder items.
2. Up to 55% make mainly the following item:
* Mace.
3. Up to 65% make the following items:
* Maul.
4. Up to 75% make the following items:
* Cutlass.
5. Up to 80% make the following items:
* Longsword.
6. Up to 85% make the following items:
* Kryss.
7. Up to 90% make the following items:
* Short Spear.
8. Up to 95% make the following items:
* Katanas and Short Spears.
9. Up to 100% make the following items:
* Katanas and Spears.

[Kael]

Good work, I wonder if that would make GM blacksmithy more or less expensive

[poogoblin]

Bump...I know it's proabably a p.i.t.a. to implement but would add a lot to era accuracy BS, especially to those of us who aren't GM yet.

[Derrick]

Thanks for the bump.

If looked at addressing this a few times previously and it's going to take quite a bit to fill in the gaps in the inforation from the links posted; but we will try to address this soon.

[poogoblin]

Thanks, been holding off on BS for the nostalgia factor as this is how my pea brain remembers it.

[Hans]

I've started a smith, and have been using this Maximum skill gain chart.

I'm not sure if this formula matches the 'classic' second age rules, but it seems to be working so far -- I started at 50 and am nearing 65 now, making scimitars, krysses and war forks, and it seems to be working OK. I *think* I've been through about 4000 ingots, but haven't been keeping track of them as I should..

[zzyzx]

I recently GMed blacksmithing from and I did:

cutlass to like 52 displayed (? I remember switching to katanas pretty early)
katana to like, 86 displayed
and then plate gorgets to like 96 displayed
and then plate gloves to GM.

I would say it took somewhere in the range of 26k ingots, smelting everything I made.