Joined a week ago but considering leaving...

[Sissypants]

PK Preparedness Kit:

1) 8,000g in bag
2) 250 ea Reagent
3) +25 Vanq
4) Full set of Invul Armor
5) One "Total Panic" potion.

*House Key and Rune Home Optional.

[marmalade]

there are SO many ways to make it harder for pks to kill you. if you go out of town with 20 of each reg and a recall rune, then i would expect you to die.

1. carry trapped pouches. these negate the paralyse spell completely
2. carry potions, even mage shop bought ones
3. carry invis items/magic reflect items/teleport items/heal wands
4. invest in magic resist and/or wrestling
5. invest in at least 60-70 magery so recall doesn't fizzle at inconvenient times
6. learn to defend yourself and/or fight back.
7. hunt in groups. this is an mmo after all
8. hire some anti pks to hang around as a deterrent
9. go somewhere that isnt a hotspot
10. learn from your mistakes instead of crying on the forums like a little girl

this is UO, not hello kitty online. the mechanics allow for griefing, so expect it to occur. prepare for the worst, and when it happens you'll have felt like you've learnt something instead of feeling like a hopeless newbie.

[checkmate]

10. learn from your mistakes instead of crying on the forums like a little girl
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If you got off your high horse and took the time to actually read this thread the complaint I had didn't have to do with PKing, but the fact of ghosting.

[checkmate]

That's a typical day lately. I can't seem to go to anywhere without getting jumped. Quite often I do make it out recalling with a hotkey, just as often not though. I never minded PKers in the game, and I wouldn't here under normal circumstances, but when it starts happening every 30 minutes no matter where you go, and everytime you're in a dungeon, it's just not fun anymore.

Yeah I have that issue. There are some nice proper PKs though and they have left me recall regs and don't double kill me. It's just problematic because I feel like all the blues are bored, so they make reds. But in old UO there were enough blues to at least scare reds a little bit... but we don't have that kind of population here. And it doesn't help that those who do stay just go red. There basically isn't any balance of blue and red.

*shrug

[Reena Dae]

Maybe Napa was different from the shards the rest of you guys are from, but I didn't immediately assume the next person I saw was going to PK me like I do here. My first dungeon experience in UO was at the ogre lords in Wrong where everyone took turns blade spiriting and chatting. Here, my first dungeon experience involved being PKed on the first floor of Covetous when it was obvious I was still a newb with my crappy brown bear and an NPC bought hammer.

This shard's ruleset attracts the type of people who enjoy PvP/PK/Griefing so you end up with more wolves than sheep. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot you can do about that unless you are willing to get creative and break era accuracy. The segment of players that's desperately missing from this shard are busy playing games that are more appealing to their play style.

It's easy to say "make friends", but a lot of the people I've seen outside of town introduce themselves with Corp Por.

P.S. instating 1 account per IP address would mean I can't play with my husband anymore because we are behind NAT.

[voodoo]

Account and IP restrictions will not solve anything. Also, breaking era accuracy could treat the symptoms, but is probably not desirable. Paying for accounts, as would technically be accurate and would alleviate some problems, is also not an option.

The problem is, as you say, that there are too many wolves and too few sheep. The question is if this is because the players in the community are aware of the problem and are just content to starve as wolves, if they're unaware and simply play wolves as first nature, or if they just don't know how to play sheep at all.

[checkmate]

The problem is, as you say, that there are too many wolves and too few sheep. The question is if this is because the players in the community are aware of the problem and are just content to starve as wolves, if they're unaware and simply play wolves as first nature, or if they just don't know how to play sheep at all.

Yup you summed it up perfectly. There should be more APK guilds. Once I get established I will probably try to start one.

[marmalade]

10. learn from your mistakes instead of crying on the forums like a little girl
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If you got off your high horse and took the time to actually read this thread the complaint I had didn't have to do with PKing, but the fact of ghosting.

i was replying more to some of the other people that have posted in here. i already said on the first or second page of this thread that i dont like ghosting either, but there isn't anything that can really be done about that realistically. the only thing you can do, as i said, is prepare for the worst and deal with it accordingly. as an example, ghosting becomes irrelevant if you hunt in a group or hire some blue anti pks to hang around. make or join a guild that caters to your playstyle. theres 101 things that you could do that would make killing you 100x harder regardless of how many ghosts there are. the fact that pks are ghosting you does not mean you automatically die, you die because you're not stocked properly and you dont know what you're doing.

no offense, but making a thread saying you're considering leaving because you died a couple of times is (in my opinion) crying like a little girl. don't be a woman. learn from your mistakes and dont make them again.

[Lucien]

The problem here are the new players marmelade. Players that have no idea of what a hally/wrestling timer is. Players that dont come to the forums that often(maybe never). Why do PKs kill people like that? People that arent even on horses? To take some NPC weapon and some apples and trash them? What is thrilling about this?

I understand PKing, I just dont understand PKing noobs. No reward, no emotion, nothing.

[Halogen]

Tough shard....very era accurate in that and every other respect...ghosting was part of the game back then, so it's part of the game here....multiple accts happened back then a lot more that you think, and they were perfectly legal....also, families played together so you sometimes had 5 accts between all family members....my gut tells me Derrick would rather lose population on the shard than have it "go trammel" by making it noob-friendly from a PK standpoint....these are all arguments that were made back then (I was there from week one of the game until 2006 on the pay shards) and incessant whining about the advantages PKs had in packs (which they ran in more often than not) as well as anything and everything else that made the game anything less than easy led to the decline and downfall of UO....which is why we are here and not on any of the carebear shards....if hard work in dangerous conditions doesn't appeal to a particular person, they have many other places to go....but expect populations to be low and dropping in most cases, since the fun factor wears off quickly....then more often than not, a person will realize, as most of us who are here and not elsewhere have, that we'd rather be here getting robbed and murdered than be elsewhere twiddling our thumbs and going grey from boredom.

Welcome to UOSA....welcome to hell.

What UO was and always should have been.

[Sandro]

great post

[voodoo]

Tough shard....very era accurate in that and every other respect...ghosting was part of the game back then, so it's part of the game here....multiple accts happened back then a lot more that you think, and they were perfectly legal....also, families played together so you sometimes had 5 accts between all family members....my gut tells me Derrick would rather lose population on the shard than have it "go trammel" by making it noob-friendly from a PK standpoint....these are all arguments that were made back then (I was there from week one of the game until 2006 on the pay shards) and incessant whining about the advantages PKs had in packs (which they ran in more often than not) as well as anything and everything else that made the game anything less than easy led to the decline and downfall of UO....which is why we are here and not on any of the carebear shards....if hard work in dangerous conditions doesn't appeal to a particular person, they have many other places to go....but expect populations to be low and dropping in most cases, since the fun factor wears off quickly....then more often than not, a person will realize, as most of us who are here and not elsewhere have, that we'd rather be here getting robbed and murdered than be elsewhere twiddling our thumbs and going grey from boredom.

Welcome to UOSA....welcome to hell.

What UO was and always should have been.

An account more or less just for ghosting, such as what's being employed here, would have cost $10 a month back then. How do you figure that into the claim that the ghosting that's going on is era accurate?

The community appears to have a very selective understanding of era accuracy when it comes to certain things. There's a lot of groupthink going around. I mean, damn, there's gotta be 8 to 10 people in this thread alone claiming that ghosting is working in an era accurate manner without even considering the fact that accounts are free here (a major inaccuracy that affects this particular issue a great deal) which to be honest is either enormously incompetent or enormously biased for people so used to working with the "era accuracy" concept.

The question is not, "Is ghosting era accurate?" because as it exists on UOSA today, it is definitely not era accurate, and that much should be pretty obvious to just about anyone who thinks about it for two seconds. However, making it era accurate would be idiotic, because noone's gonna pay $10/month per account to play (sorry Derrick!). So instead of attacking people for suggesting that, perhaps, some things do not work as accurately as the community likes to believe, it would be better if you devoted your efforts to finding a solution that satisfies the need to solve the problem while still satisfying the era accuracy criteria.

[Myg]

voodoo is spot on.

Too many people here use their own "filter" when looking at the entire unity of the era and cut soo many parts out in favour of others because of their own personal agendas.

There are only two directions to this that wont break the state of minds of most people here:

- GMs going around moving ghosts.
- The community taking an active role and standing up to PKs (I dont know of any anti-PK groups existing atm).

[Annoyed Gamer]

I had a rathy lengthy response to all the critics (reds) but it seems the moderators didn't want me to speak my mind here.

I expect this post will also be censored by the Mods. Should be fairly obvious that the powers that be are down with the red community.

[voodoo]

I had a rathy lengthy response to all the critics (reds) but it seems the moderators didn't want me to speak my mind here.

I expect this post will also be censored by the Mods. Should be fairly obvious that the powers that be are down with the red community.

This isn't helping. If that were the case, shouldn't they be censoring me, Myg and several other people as well?