Truths about this Era - The Way it Was

[Anders]

Couple things i've questioned.


1) Spell disrupt. You can't equip a weapon and disrupt a spell, only hit a trapped box. Not correct as i remember.

2) Platemail legs would equip over any leg items, even armor.

[Derrick]

Couple things i've questioned.


1) Spell disrupt. You can't equip a weapon and disrupt a spell, only hit a trapped box. Not correct as i remember.

2) Platemail legs would equip over any leg items, even armor.

There has been quite a bit of debate on both sides as to whether you could equip distrupt in era. We did find an era patch note that indicated that you could not, however more digging would be needed to get the whole history of this "feature".

We're aware that you could equip plate over most leg items in addition to being able to equip the plate chest over ring, chain and most clothing. This has been in the implementation stage for a while now. Note that the AR's did not stack, with plate over chain legs you only received the AR from the plate. I hope to be able to get this in with the clothing AR changes as discussed in another thread.

[Mazer]

Feels way too weird not being able to disrupt mid-cast. If you guys aren't sure if this is accurate like this, I'd suggest switching to being able to disrupt yourself with a weapon.

[suil]

You could disrupt spells in-era. No, I don't have proof.

[bigcheez]

Parry Mages weren't popular in this era for this simple reason. Unequipping both a weapon and shield to cast took too much time. Hence the Hally mage is born.

No, that is not why parry mages weren't popular in the era... You can't fit in Weapon skills/parry/mage skills into a template and just a parry mage doesn't deal enough damage. "Simple reason".. rofl

Could you cast a spell with a weapon equipped in Dreadlord days, I.E. before T2A?

Yes....you could also just around with a bow/heavy xbox and fire shots WHILE moving/running. You could also OUTRUN someones melee swing, hence the birth of the 'insta hit' to avoid DODGING the animation of someones hally. I remember dodging peoples melee animation all the time vividly pre T2A. You could also cast in Full Plate since the skill Meditation did not exist. Remember full plate mages? Everyone used Archery, bone or full plate in this era. If you had 85 magery you were a God. They saw lack of balance and made it so you had to make a CHOICE; you either have great armor and slow mana regen, or no armor and mana regen. Naked mages with a robe are the NEW NORM in the T2A era as people realize wearing any armor, even leather is not worth the offset of mana regen speed.

Insta hit was a bug and also took place pre-T2A, they fixed it by making the damage apply after swing took place but then decided that was retarded and brought insta hit back for a little bit



Explo ebolt weapon did not kill someone, I remember one of the top PvPers teaching me new combos. No one did explo ebolt weapon hit. There was actually some skill in UO, it wasn't just a bunch of newbies running around casting 2 spells per kill.

[Teknix]

i wanna try and recap all the different types of 'pvp templates' we've discussed here

1. warrior mage (swords, mace, archery) w/ tact, eval, med, mage, resist, wrest
2. med/heal warrior (swords, mace, fencing, maybe archery?) tact, anat, heal, mage, med, resist


what would the townie be? w/ or w/o magery & resist? w/ or w/o parry?

what other 'fighting' or 'pvp' templates are there?

[bigcheez]

dexer with poisoning and alchemy

[Gilgamesh]

In high end pvp pure mages weren't normal, but I had a friend that used one for a while until he realized he had to take a weapon skill. He used hiding instead of weapon skill for a while.

Remember during t2a in OSI not everyone knew how to macro effectively to get a quick 7x tank mage or dexxer, and the resources it took was murder even if you did know how. So if you were a "pure mage" without a weapon skill and had very high skills (GM magery and evaluating intelligence) against someone who might not even have 100 strength, maybe in the 90's (as you couldn't lock them then) and maybe 70 resisting spells, you could drop them with a few spells.

[qtip]

My buddy played a mage with healing and anatomy. He was pretty popular in the O/C crowd. Probably was not going to kill you unless grey, but no one was dieing on his watch. There is a time and place for every template. There was a discussion not too long about about stealth archers and mages, and how in today's game world we're all a bit more on our toes and its unlikely a stealth template could have the same effect these days. I've never played a balanced UO tourney. There are just too many template factors and rule sets, we have to find a "middle ground".

[Gilgamesh]

You could disrupt spells in-era. No, I don't have proof.

I'm not sure about this. I was playing other shards for a while where you could do this and it certainly didn't feel like how it felt playing on OSI. Of course their spell timers were really fast too so that changes the feel, but I remember on OSI if I made a poor spell choice I would have to wait until it was done casting and then click on something to get rid of the target cursor.

That is not to say that you couldn't do it, but based on my memory and the patch notes they have I think that puts it in the more likely category that you couldn't

[Derrick]

You could disrupt spells in-era. No, I don't have proof.

I'm not sure about this. I was playing other shards for a while where you could do this and it certainly didn't feel like how it felt playing on OSI. Of course their spell timers were really fast too so that changes the feel, but I remember on OSI if I made a poor spell choice I would have to wait until it was done casting and then click on something to get rid of the target cursor.

That is not to say that you couldn't do it, but based on my memory and the patch notes they have I think that puts it in the more likely category that you couldn't

That's my recollection too, especially blade spirits. Not saying it was the case "for sure", but it sure seems it to me.

[Gilgamesh]

There's another thing about spell disrupts that has confounded me. Was it true that if you got disrupted during casting you had to wait for your casting timer to run out until you could start another spell, or could you automatically hit another spell? In other words was there a recast timer, and was it variable based on the length of the spell you were disrupted on?

[alatar]

if you are disrupted you can instantly cast another spell

[Gilgamesh]

if you are disrupted you can instantly cast another spell

And this is accurate to the era?

I'm wondering because it seemed like back in the day when dueling you could use superior timing to really mess the other person up.

[Derrick]

if you are disrupted you can instantly cast another spell

And this is accurate to the era?

I'm wondering because it seemed like back in the day when dueling you could use superior timing to really mess the other person up.

My recollection is that this is accurate. I don't remember having to wait after getting interrupted. Maybe this was something that was early T2A or prior?