UO Second Age

BlackFoot wrote:Buying items for gold from an npc, that would otherwise be unobtainable presents a whole other serious of issues. It would need to be well thought out.

BlackFoot wrote:Another view of guild chat is that it removes the need for guilds to have a central meeting ground. They no longer need to group up to discuss issues but can continue to play the game as a solo player discussing with their guild as they play alone.

As of now no one in a guild needs to hang out where they might expect to meet up with their guildies. This may also help with the dead guild town conversations as guild chat deffinately leads away from grouping in these areas in game.

I do think that in the same patch where these chats are removed some work needs to be done on the Message bulletin boards to make them more useable.

It is also a bad argument that 'because of this is a certain way therefore its ok for this to be a certain way'.
The discussion on why somthing should remain should be focused on that subject.
This thread will turn into a 'if you do this than you have to do this' thread which wont end up being productive.

'Because I dont feel this is accurate than it is ok for this to be inaccurate' etc and we go all the way down the line until we have a custom built sphere shard

an example is 'because we cant remove barrels using pitchers of water, we should be able to have new crafting menus'

in an exagerated form its clear to see why these types of arguments dont hold water.

Hemperor wrote:I fail to understand why guild chat was left in while party was removed.

For ease of communication (through inaccurate means)? Then why was party disabled?

Have both in, or remove both... Fail to understand how we went halfway on this one, although according to the goal there should really be only one way to go, no questions asked.

When did "accuracy" go out the window? Not trying to upset anyone, but as I understood it, that was the only deciding factor on this shard.

Derrick wrote:Parties have been removed completely as they are absolutely not consistent with the T2A era. There was much consideration and discussion given to removing Guild Chat as well, but it has been decided that it will not be removed.

There are a few factors that played into our decision on guild chat, its convenience was not the deciding factor. We were able to modify guild chat so that it cannot be used to trigger the SysMsg condition in Razor. It is my view that guild chat is essentially a interface feature, and it does not now enable a player any ability which cannot be obtained through an allowed 3rd party application such as UO AutoMap. It also provides a partial substitute for the "UO Messenger" client feature which was available during our target time frame, but we are not able to provide due to it's removal from the UO Client itself.

Hemperor wrote:Maybe I have missed a reason Derrick has given, but I don't think so, if I have please link.

Sandro wrote:

Hemperor wrote:Maybe I have missed a reason Derrick has given, but I don't think so, if I have please link.

Because at least 75% of the server would vanish.

Sandro wrote:Then what is your explanation for guild chat being overlooked and ultimately deemed acceptable in the T2A era?

Obviously EA wasn't the deciding factor.

Maybe this 15-page thread was?

Sandro wrote:I will go a bit further and add that, in my opinion, a lot of players are "still here" because there are very few other options out there to choose from without having to be a part of somebodys pvp wish-list server, where everything is coded to suit the desires of the admin.

just my opinion though