Combat Timer Trial and other proposed changes now on Test

[marmalade]

only problem is its going to be pretty easy to set razor macros to do all the timing for you. but its definitely an improvement and fun.

[Psilo]

I think the equip delay for hally should be removed.

[Jimi[DF]]

I think the equip delay for hally should be removed.

I think so also. I remember using uoe because hally didn't have an equip delay like it did with the client equip/unequip macro.

[nightshark]

ye the client equip macro was really bad and had a long delay.

that wasnt a mechanical thing in the game code though, it was just the client itself. idk what caused it but if you used the in game equip macros, it would take a crazy long time to arm or disarm the weapon if you'd already done it in the past few seconds.

[Derrick]

ye the client equip macro was really bad and had a long delay.

that wasnt a mechanical thing in the game code though, it was just the client itself. idk what caused it but if you used the in game equip macros, it would take a crazy long time to arm or disarm the weapon if you'd already done it in the past few seconds.

This is still the case, Razor will do it much faster, but there is still a prep time applied on equiping.

[saltyclappers]

How close is this till live publish? I logged on over the weekend to try things out... and couldnt be more unhappy. The insta dbl hally is nuts... precast an eb and then do that and you can get a possible of 120 dmg in 1 second.... its okay to die like this retardedly on test, but on live when you already have 20 counts, regs, weps, etc. and someone gets this off and you instantly die. I cant imagine how frustrated that will make players. Not to mention that if you have 2 people doing this to you? Sheesh. The best char and easiest to play will be a char with 100 anat/swords dex and then just chase someone with a hally... every time they try to stop to cast or whatever they get hit with a hally (possibly a dbl hit)... just keep enough int to cast interrupt and you're golden. That definitely doesnt sound very fun... at all.

Before, I complained about the new patch but I didnt really try it out until this weekend. Now, after playing it for hours... its even more worse than I thought. I guess this is era-accurate (I heard about the decompile, etc.) but it sure as hell isnt gonna be fun... but keeping people and making it fun obviously isnt the goal here, right?

Of course these are just IMO... but, from the people I was playing with over the weekend on test.. pretty everyone thought it was just a joke... maybe whats on test isnt even close to being published, in that case... hopefully things will get fixed.

I give it (10) sad faces...

[Derrick]

We've really just been toying with some on the variables. We have the pre-T2A decompilation, not a T2A decomplilation, so it's been a process of tweaking and testing. When we feel there's something solid on test we will post; but what was on test over the weekend was 4 different revisions, and in the end reverting back to something closer to what was on there last week.

It's a bit of a preview in some sence, but mostly an experiment right now.

I give it two happy faces, 7 neutral faces, and a question mark.

[marmalade]

I give it two happy faces, 7 neutral faces, and a question mark.

made me chuckle

[Psilo]

How close is this till live publish? I logged on over the weekend to try things out... and couldnt be more unhappy. The insta dbl hally is nuts... precast an eb and then do that and you can get a possible of 120 dmg in 1 second.... its okay to die like this retardedly on test, but on live when you already have 20 counts, regs, weps, etc. and someone gets this off and you instantly die. I cant imagine how frustrated that will make players. Not to mention that if you have 2 people doing this to you? Sheesh. The best char and easiest to play will be a char with 100 anat/swords dex and then just chase someone with a hally... every time they try to stop to cast or whatever they get hit with a hally (possibly a dbl hit)... just keep enough int to cast interrupt and you're golden. That definitely doesnt sound very fun... at all.

Before, I complained about the new patch but I didnt really try it out until this weekend. Now, after playing it for hours... its even more worse than I thought. I guess this is era-accurate (I heard about the decompile, etc.) but it sure as hell isnt gonna be fun... but keeping people and making it fun obviously isnt the goal here, right?

Of course these are just IMO... but, from the people I was playing with over the weekend on test.. pretty everyone thought it was just a joke... maybe whats on test isnt even close to being published, in that case... hopefully things will get fixed.

I give it (10) sad faces...

It's still being tested and if you ask me the new changes are A HUGE IMPROVEMENT from what we currently have.


The only people complaining are the pvpers who haven't practiced enough with the new mechanics.

[Pro]

sclams is dumb and probably didn't realise mini-heal isn't disruptable.

[saltyclappers]

Nay sir... with the hally cycling as you run... with heavy dex each time you stop, say... to mini-heal, you get swung at for up 40 dmg just with a GM hally... it's even more stupid when magic hallies come in to the picture.

okay, so then go with 80 dex and 40 int, drink a dex pot back to 100 dex... now you can cast finishing EBs... even more stupid... and if 2 people like that are chasing you, it goes from stupid to completely retarded.

right now, 2v1s vs dexxers are extremely fun... that wont be fun at all.

these are just imo on the current situation on test... i know i know, its still being worked on, etc. etc. etc....

[Derrick]

The "no combat timer advance while moving" was integrated into test friday night. It doesn't exactly mean what we thought it meant, but it is on there.

Currently on test: Insta-hit, Prep time when equiping, and no combat timer advance when moving.

These are the essential differences that we have identified between pre-t2a and t2a combat. However as above, we are till very much in a testing phase, and the precise intervals associated with the above "features" is undocumented. A reasonable assumption of 1 second prep time has been made/interpreted based on other similar OSI timings and statements.

[Faust]

What do you mean Derrick?

Does the timer no longer advanceswhen moving just like how it doesn't on the live server?

[Roser]

Does the timer no longer advanceswhen moving just like how it doesn't on the live server?

Yea I just tested and it seems this is the case. Swing timers are no longer advancing while moving... Darn... this was a major selling point for me.. Is it a permanent decision?

[nightshark]

yea i thought you guys found out that swing timer did advance on the move in era. that was what i was looking forward to :<