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Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:51 pm
by brandonsantacruz
I don't see any reason to be a tailor at this server, or at least any reason to pursue it beyond starting a noob w/50 skill and leaving it at that. The skill gain for tailoring is very slow and you lose money when tailoring in town. If you get ahold of a lot of wool and sell the shirts or whatever, you can get some money, sure. Why bother with that when you can just kill a few mobs? Add to that the t2a system of these secondary combat skills, anatomy and eval intel and you crowd out any reason to have a lot of other skills, such as tailoring, on your character at all.

Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:19 pm
by alatar
I have a gm tailor and I find the skill pretty useless myself.
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:43 pm
by Sauron
Aye, Taming and Blacksmithy were the main money makers during t2a. Derrick is right though, Vendors could get overstocked and understocked and that influenced sell and buy prices. This was actually something they added so that the player economy would pick up and it worked.

Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:54 pm
by brandonsantacruz
alatar wrote:I have a gm tailor and I find the skill pretty useless myself.
I was going for a dexxer who can make his own studded leather armor, but the dex losses from armor aren't enough to make it worth while. I'm just going to have a smith make all of my equipment. Is there a way that being less than a GM at a trade skill can make some money?
Btw, I heard someone say that taming was a big money maker. How so?
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:06 pm
by TwoTon
by walking into dungeons and saying all kill and targeting strong monsters with much loot

Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:22 pm
by Lothain
Polar bear sales are way up, too. =P
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:59 pm
by getan
It seems to me that the method that vendors buy things is working as it should, which by design makes you goto different cities to sell your stuff. I do think that the prices for tailoring could be higher.
The other problem that I have noticed, is that the spools that the vendors sell are a lot more expensive then I rememeber them being. I recall them being 5-6g per spool instead of 18.
So if you buy the 5 spools of thread and hand make the bolt, you end up paying 90g instead 100. If the spools were even 8g a piece, it would only cost you 40g a bolt.
While this makes, creating the bolts by hand cheaper it would be held in check because the vendors only sell the spools in limited supply.
Im not sure if there is a skill check for making bolts, but maybe if it was in game we can implement it.
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:35 pm
by Derrick
getan wrote:It seems to me that the method that vendors buy things is working as it should, which by design makes you goto different cities to sell your stuff. I do think that the prices for tailoring could be higher.
The other problem that I have noticed, is that the spools that the vendors sell are a lot more expensive then I rememeber them being. I recall them being 5-6g per spool instead of 18.
So if you buy the 5 spools of thread and hand make the bolt, you end up paying 90g instead 100. If the spools were even 8g a piece, it would only cost you 40g a bolt.
While this makes, creating the bolts by hand cheaper it would be held in check because the vendors only sell the spools in limited supply.
Im not sure if there is a skill check for making bolts, but maybe if it was in game we can implement it.
Thanks. We intend to get all pricing accurate, we were presented an era accurate price list, it's taken us longer to implement that we expected but look for corrections soon.
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:27 am
by Fryguy|M|
BloodyBandage wrote:Fryguy|M| wrote:My point is, back in the day, a tailor could make a reasonable living just buying bolts of cloth, (which not all were 100gp, some styles you could get for 50gp) and making his clothing and selling it to the NPCs. How is a tailor expected to start off when he has no chance of turning a profit, unless you go and harvest wool off the 8 spawning sheep in delucia, which don't even regrow the wool back after waiting for over 3.5 hours( I ended up killing them all hoping they would respawn faster than they regrew)
You don't honestly think being able to buy cloth and cut it up should justify a profit do you? There was also a major bug in this era that allowed me to get perfect stats, but y would we want it..just for accuracy? Anyway, if you allow people to make money macroing cutting shirts, and just selling them back we are going to have more problems; you will see people just macroing this all day. The Tailor shop should not be turned into an ATM....however you can go and kill things and spend that gold on cloth in which case you don't have to wait for sheep respawn..then when you get a little higher kill dragons and such for leather. I liken this suggestion to resource gathering afk.
Era accuracy. So. Yes. I do, actually. Your'e using your skill and selling the item. That's why they put in vendors that sell bolts of cloth, so u can buy it, make an item, and sell it. Sure you don't make AS MUCH profit as you would from making your own bolt but you can make some. And you could NEVER just 'do it all day'. The vendors stopped buying.
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:52 pm
by nubblie
I have to agree with fryguy on this. I found a link on stratics containing the buying prices and return on the items. So he has the point that it is era accurate.
Link:
http://web.archive.org/web/200003032040 ... m/tail.htm
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:15 pm
by brandonsantacruz
This is much more like what I remember. Short of making some great macro to constantly churn fancy shirts while you are afk, you could make a modest uo living tailoring
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:39 am
by RoboGrater
I was wondering if we could get an update on the pricing situation as it relates to Tailoring... It seems to me that the tailoring pricing is still quite a bit off.
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:40 pm
by Cromwell
RoboGrater wrote:I was wondering if we could get an update on the pricing situation as it relates to Tailoring... It seems to me that the tailoring pricing is still quite a bit off.
Fancy shirts still get 10gp. Will the prices be changed to reflect those on stratics?
I'm a tailor and can't make a gp..
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:24 pm
by Derrick
I've been working on repricing all vendor items for accuracy over the last couple days. There are a lot of items so this is going to be some work, but I hope to have all prices accurate this week (hopfully early this week)
Re: So I started a Tailor...
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:47 pm
by Cromwell
*Eagerly awaits*