Re: cA: GOOD OR BAD
Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:58 am
MatronDeWinter wrote: The problem is, that you cannot simply take a poll.
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MatronDeWinter wrote: The problem is, that you cannot simply take a poll.
I stand by that quote, however it was in referance to era-mechanics and not personal opinion.noxmonk wrote:MatronDeWinter wrote: The problem is, that you cannot simply take a poll.
weak effort nox monknoxmonk wrote:MatronDeWinter wrote: The problem is, that you cannot simply take a poll.
There is no effort needed because the poll question is already subjectively skewed in your favor. Your poll is baseless and invalid from the start. This seems to be a trend with cA, or cA supporters to make heavily inaccurate polls as shown by Matron's.Bakishwaka wrote:weak effort nox monknoxmonk wrote:MatronDeWinter wrote: The problem is, that you cannot simply take a poll.
weak
Kraarug wrote:From: http://www.survey.com/services/how_to_w ... stion.html
How to Write a Poll Question
It is important to follow general guidelines when writing poll questions. These guidelines help ensure that your question is clear and understandable, and that you’ve provided a set of responses applicable to all respondents.
Writing your poll question:
The best poll question is written in a clear, concise, and unbiased fashion. The question text is brief, and leaves no uncertainty as to what is being asked of the respondent. Because reliable data are derived from questions that leave no uncertainty as to what is being asked of the respondent, resist the temptation to include more words than are necessary in question text. To maximize the validity of poll results, question text should be unbiased. Therefore, it is best to avoid interjecting personal opinion into question text.
Avoid complicating your poll question by including multiple dimensions. In other words, a question like “Do you like the appearance and usability of this Web site?” (yes, no) will evoke unclear responses. If a respondent replies “yes,” you will not know whether they liked the appearance, the usability, or both. You are better off asking one question regarding appearance, and a separate question for usability.
Defining your response set:
Response set construction should follow the same guidelines as the construction of poll questions. When developing response sets, try to follow these additional guidelines:
* Include all possible options – Ensure that every respondent is able to answer the question you are presenting. Try to offer complete response sets, and include “None of the above,” “Don’t know/does not apply,” “Decline to state,” etc., where necessary. Respondents who are not presented with an appropriate response option for their needs tend to either skip the question altogether, or worse, select a response option that is not an accurate reflection of how they feel.
* Provide mutually exclusive options – If your question offers a single select response set (as opposed to multiple select), ensure that your response options are clearly different from one another. This will help keep your respondents from becoming confused as to which response option(s) they should select.
* Use appropriate ranges – Do not include ranges with overlapping values. If a respondent wants to enter a value of “5” or “10” to a given question, which of the following poor response options would they select?
0 – 5
5 – 10
10 – 15
15 or more
A better response set would be:
None
1 – 4
5 – 9
10 – 14
15 or more
* Use appropriate scales – Select a scale type that is appropriate for the manner in which you intend to use the results. Two examples of scale types are:
o Balanced scales – Balanced scales should include an odd number of responses (5 or more), and always provide a “middle ground” for respondents. Balanced scales are used when you want to “collapse” the results of the top two (1-2=“Dislike”) or bottom two (4-5=“Like”) scores in your analysis. For example:
1 – Dislike extremely
2 –
3 – Neither like nor dislike
4 –
5 – Like extremely
o Continuum scales – Continuum scales have no literal midpoint, and are best when you want to report an average, or mean score in your results. For example:
1 – Not at all familiar
2 – Slightly familiar
3 – Moderately familiar
4 – Very familiar
5 – Extremely familiar
Please try to remain on topic next time.Matron wrote:The poll is just here to show that if a voting system was enabled to decide the features of a particular item (in this case the server), the results will always lean towards the majority vote.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7490
If the polling question was "Would you like to abolish Pre-casting", the results would most certainly remain the same as the majority rules. The point is that enabling a voting system of the masses, defeats the purpose of "UO:Secondage". Majority voting is what led to the implimentation of Player-Friendly features such as Trammel, and equal distribution of Fame/Karma, on EA-Servers. I hope that the players here (myself included) play here to experience T2A, as the era-accuracy is what seperates this from a run of the mill neon-item festival with item bless deeds (other shards).
noxmonk copying and pasting Matrons post wrote: The problem is, that you cannot simply take a poll.
ME wrote: weak effort nox monk
weak
noxmonk wrote: There is no effort needed because the poll question is already subjectively skewed in your favor. Your poll is baseless and invalid from the start. This seems to be a trend with cA, or cA supporters to make heavily inaccurate polls as shown by Matron's.
cA's effect on this shardnoxmonk copying and pasting Kraarug's post wrote:From: http://www.survey.com/services/how_to_w ... stion.html
How to Write a Poll Question
It is important to follow general guidelines when writing poll questions. These guidelines help ensure that your question is clear and understandable, and that you’ve provided a set of responses applicable to all respondents.
Writing your poll qu...........................ad nauseum
Since you seem to be blind to your own proclivities in your statement: "What do you think? Is cA a wonderfully creative and original influence on the shard and it's community or a group of griefers that revel in others misery and chase players away."Bakishwaka wrote:
how is this biased, overly complicated, or laced with personal opinion?
its a simple question of the subjects opinion about the overall effect on this shard. is it good neutral or bad... fairly concise and unbiased, I THINK .. am i wrong?
nice try noxmonk, way to copy and paste.
and no i am not cA, but I do support what they do.
if you don't like the format of my poll make your own, and we'll see how she goes
1. I'm not sure if that'd be more "accurate", but it would certainly be less clear.noxmonk wrote:A more accurate poll description would have been: In all likelihood, have the actions of cA been the sole responsibility for players joining or leaving the shard?
ad hominem so early? tsk.Bakishwaka wrote:as i said, make your own post and quit trying SO SO hard to appear either objective or educated. You're failing at both.
my first post on this thread is NOT the poll
the POLL clearly states.... wait .. why do i need to reiterate again.. read the thing clearly.
edit: my views were clear from the outset, they are a given; leaving MY opinion unstated to appease your sense of what constitutes a legitimate and accurate poll (which a forum like this could NEVER actually create) is both prententious and a waste of time.
the POLL itself states the conditions and the options, which are NOT skewed in anybody's favor.
carry on
ad hom. expected. OMG U TRALK IN COMPLEEET SENENTENSCES UR AKTING SMRT HOW TODOUNNDER STAND? STPO AKT SOSMRT K? OMGZchumbucket wrote:I'm going to ignore my own advice, and play MR SMART MANS game.
So an appropriate range would be ABSOLUTELY AMAZING OMG BEST EVER versus OMG WRST THING HAPPN 2 ME LIFETIME SLIT WRIST AFK.chumbucket wrote: ...
You also complain that the text of the forum post for the poll was leading because it had (1) described two extreme options and (2) presented a positive or pro option, which people are likely to select. While you might correct in a technical sense, it is quite clear that the effect is not likely to be so significant that a large number of people that would have selected BAD with an optimal wording choice instead selected GOOD. GOOD is beating BAD almost 5 to 1. It is preposterous to maintain that without the text accompanying the poll that the would have been any significant reversal in these numbers. Even a 2 to 1 ration of GOOD to BAD would be a resounding victory for the practitioners of the bardic arts.
Also--and I take it this much is obvious to everyone--it's a frickin poll on a forum! WTFOMG.