UO Second Age

The problem with charging vote points for the event gates would be that it wouldn't give non PvPers any benefit from voting.

Safir wrote:The problem with charging vote points for the event gates would be that it wouldn't give non PvPers any benefit from voting.

important point

Safir wrote:The problem with charging vote points for the event gates would be that it wouldn't give non PvPers any benefit from voting.

It would still up the number of current votes by a factor of 10. That's better than nothing right?

No matter what system you choose, you won't satisfy everyone. Being able to turn in the points for rewards would be rubish. Not everyone wants rewards/rares, you therefore it wouldn't give non specialitem collects any benefit from voting.

no in game rewards derrick made pretty clear

Kefka wrote:

Safir wrote:The problem with charging vote points for the event gates would be that it wouldn't give non PvPers any benefit from voting.

It would still up the number of current votes by a factor of 10. That's better than nothing right?

Well, I suppose you're right, it would still benefit the shard.

Kefka wrote:No matter what system you choose, you won't satisfy everyone. Being able to turn in the points for rewards would be rubish. Not everyone wants rewards/rares, you therefore it wouldn't give non specialitem collects any benefit from voting.

Perhaps it wouldn't have to be rares, it could just as well be resources in bulk, like scrolls, hides, ignots or boards. Or perhaps even rideable llamas or ostards since those will be a betch to get out of T2A. It could even be a bag of regs or bandages. It wouldn't have to be rare items, and it wouldn't have to be trophies (that eventually lead to some sort of rare item), it could be anything already available. Of course in moderation, one shouldn't be able to put player merchants out of business.

BlackFoot wrote:no in game rewards derrick made pretty clear

That's another point I think should be considered. Up until this thread, all I've read about in-game rewards for out of the game doings is that there won't ever be in-game rewards for "donations", ie real money. I fully support that, but like I said, there hasn't been talk about any other out of the game doing that wouldn't be able to give you in-game rewards. I think this is a point that really needs to be examined by Derrick, and perhaps discussed with other staff and players for their opinion. In other words, we shouldn't blindly be staring at that one comment by Derrick in this thread and instead see past that and discuss opportunities and consequences with perhaps some new ways of bringing players to the shard as a result.

Shouldn't people be voting regardless? It takes a pinhead's knowledge of programming to make a script that you can double click on your desktop and auto vote in like 30 seconds on all the sites you load. I use one.

Don't be a useless fuckwad, click a button and vote.

noxmonk wrote:Shouldn't people be voting regardless?

Well that's the thing. People obviously don't. That is why this is a suggestion to get people voting for the greater good of the shard with some sort of incentive to keep them voting every day.

Well a first step would be nice big blinking eye candy links on UOSA front page, right now they are rather subtile. I think thats the basic of all advertising - puting the stuff you want the sell right in front of the consumers faces.

noxmonk mentioned that per script you can vote on all sites with - maybe sharing that with the community by offering it as a download would show improvement as well. I guess many people have no clue about programming - at least i dont.

I think most of the players are at least registerd on the forums and thus revealed their e-mail adresses, how about a monthly news letter as a vote reminder. (makes at least on usefull mail in that sickening mist of penis enlargement and pharma industry spam)

just my 2 cents tho.

I agree, eye candy and a monthly or perhaps even weekly newsletter from UOSA would probably encourage people to vote. But that push in the right direction tends to fade rather quick. What will keep them voting is getting something in return. Something they can use immediately, not the fact that more people will come to the shard and make it more fun.

One thing that has driven votes well in the past when we were younger was an in game broadcast of a URL, but I hesitate to do that these days; I think I killed a guy in a dungeon last time I did that which was about 6 months ago.

If we could dress up the forum topic about voting, or make a nice new one that contains all the links to vote with I could at least put it in the motd in-game.

I added us to UOGateway last night (Vote for Second Age) but i haven't had a chance yet to get the vote link up. Some of the vote links should be thinned out I think so it's not so overwhelming to go vote of 10 sites. If we picked 3 or 4 good ones for the home page I think it'd be nice, and then maybe put the rest on a sub page.

I do this this is an important issue, but as was said above, I haven't even had time to update the Pic of the Week for months. It's virtually The Pic of the Year.

Could always make a vote gump appear during world saves.

very good idea mark

props +10 rep

Derrick wrote:One thing that has driven votes well in the past when we were younger was an in game broadcast of a URL, but I hesitate to do that these days; I think I killed a guy in a dungeon last time I did that which was about 6 months ago.

Hmm what if that ingame broadcast appears in a gump form right when you enter the game ?

DoRk wrote:

Derrick wrote:One thing that has driven votes well in the past when we were younger was an in game broadcast of a URL, but I hesitate to do that these days; I think I killed a guy in a dungeon last time I did that which was about 6 months ago.

Hmm what if that ingame broadcast appears in a gump form right when you enter the game ?

I think most people click off the gumps that come up right away when they enter, having one suprise you like 8 minutes later would probably yield better results.

noxmonk wrote:Don't be a useless fuckwad, click a button and vote.

"", post the script.