UO Second Age

Mens Rea wrote:

Drunk'n Disorder wrote:

Mens Rea wrote:I already accepted the vendor's offer

Lol this isn't an auction... He's not obligated to sell to you just because you posted something in his thread.

I didn't say it was an auction.

The vendor (Taboo) offered to sell the beard cream/s at house deed each.

The buyer (me) told him I accept his offer.

I'm not sure one can become obligated in any other way than offer and acceptance on the trade forum.

Taboo wrote:This isn't really a big deal. My only critique, as a trader, is that drunkndisorder probably should have sent his messages privately. It's just an example of what you have to do on the trade forums on UOSA in order to get what you want. Again, no big deal. No harm, no foul.


If drunkndisorder is still interested in trading for one beard, i'll trade you. 1x

If mensrea is still interested in purchasing the remainder, I'll sell them to you. 4x

Maybe i'm being naive but I cant really see how anyone could be upset by this outcome. It seems like everyone wins.

If i happen to come across more, and i likely will, within my keep. Mens rea is more than welcome to purchase those as well if he'd like.

Mens Rea wrote:While I dispute the notion that Taboo is an advertiser or that his post is an advertisement, even if it is in fact an advertisement the facts surrounding this case rebut the presumption [of your silly American laws].

Here, let me quote some random American legal site (albeit probably more reliable than the findlaw.com article you refer to) which outlines the test for rebutting the presumption:

When Can an Advertisement Be Considered an Offer? http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/a ... ments.html

An advertisement may be considered a valid offer if it has the following three elements:

It is sufficiently definite in its terms (e.g. descriptions, quality, quantity, & price);
It is communicated to a specific person or persons (usually limited group of people);
The circumstances surrounding the publication show that the advertiser has the intent to enter into a contract.

The main factor that most courts look at is whether the parties had the intent to assume legal responsibility of entering into a contract. However, different courts have different ways in dealing with this issue.
When Can an Advertisement’s Offer Be Legally Enforceable?

Many courts will look at the objective manifestation of the advertiser’s intent. In other words, the court will consider whether a reasonable person would read the advertisement and believe that the advertiser intended to form an agreement. The circumstances of the case are also considered. For example, an advertisement which offers a cow to farmers in exchange for fifty dollars won’t be taken seriously in a major city. The same advertisement in a rural area, however, might be a legal offer.

Other courts might consider whether the plaintiff, the party bringing the lawsuit, had actually accepted the offer made by the advertiser. A party accepts an offer when the party acts in a manner intended to fulfill his or her end of the bargain. For example, Joe sees an advertisement which asks college students to send in their used books in exchange for cash. Joe, a college student, accepts the offer if Joe sends his used books to the advertiser.

However, some offers require a specific method of accepting an offer, a method which excludes all other methods of accepting an offer. For example, if Joe sees an advertisement which asks college students to register so that they can send their used books in exchange for cash, Joe must register in order to accept the offer. Sending in the books will not be a valid form of acceptance.

- See more at: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/a ... jbr1A.dpuf

Taboo's offer is definitive (provision of beard deed, in exchange of consideration of house deed)
It is to a class of people (those who play UOSA, members of a forum, in the rares section)
Taboo is undoubtedly intending to sell (no qualification on the terms of the offer)

I look forward to completing this deal with Taboo.

Mens Rea wrote:

Taboo wrote:This isn't really a big deal. My only critique, as a trader, is that drunkndisorder probably should have sent his messages privately. It's just an example of what you have to do on the trade forums on UOSA in order to get what you want. Again, no big deal. No harm, no foul.


If drunkndisorder is still interested in trading for one beard, i'll trade you. 1x

If mensrea is still interested in purchasing the remainder, I'll sell them to you. 4x

Maybe i'm being naive but I cant really see how anyone could be upset by this outcome. It seems like everyone wins.

If i happen to come across more, and i likely will, within my keep. Mens rea is more than welcome to purchase those as well if he'd like.

I accept your offer to sell me 4x beard deeds at small deed each.

I accept your offer to provide me right of first refusal on any beard deeds in future, for a small deed each.

Taboo wrote:It's that time of year again!

Remake your jacked up chars with these lovely renovating miracle deeds:

...

Beard Cream - 1x small deed

Everett: Hold on, now. I don't want this pomade. I want Dapper Dan.
Clerk: I don't carry Dapper Dan. I carry Fop.
Everett: Well, I don't want Fop, goddammit. I'm a Dapper Dan man.
Clerk: You watch your language, young fella. This is a public market. If you want Dapper Dan, I can order it for you, have it in about two weeks.
Everett: Well ain't this place a geographical oddity! Two weeks from everywhere! Forget it! [slams money on the counter] I'll have a dozen hair nets.