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Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:42 pm
by Light Shade
Kaivan wrote:This is a rather recent decision, and this is the first time that any player requested any upgrades since the decision was made, which made this the best public place to make players aware of the change. As for prior staff actions, this is largely in response to the fact that staff has made such changes without any guidelines in order to prevent any more problems of this nature from cropping up.
I hope you all get this straightened out going forward. It's too bad that irreparable mistakes have already been made, though.

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:12 pm
by Brules
Light Shade wrote:
Kaivan wrote:This is a rather recent decision, and this is the first time that any player requested any upgrades since the decision was made, which made this the best public place to make players aware of the change. As for prior staff actions, this is largely in response to the fact that staff has made such changes without any guidelines in order to prevent any more problems of this nature from cropping up.
I hope you all get this straightened out going forward. It's too bad that irreparable mistakes have already been made, though.

Agreed and I hope they ask for input from the players in regards to a new policy going forward.

I would hope they can address this soon as this type of thing is what keeps the shard alive and viable.

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:36 pm
by Kaivan
Light Shade wrote:
Kaivan wrote:This is a rather recent decision, and this is the first time that any player requested any upgrades since the decision was made, which made this the best public place to make players aware of the change. As for prior staff actions, this is largely in response to the fact that staff has made such changes without any guidelines in order to prevent any more problems of this nature from cropping up.
I hope you all get this straightened out going forward. It's too bad that irreparable mistakes have already been made, though.
I agree that things should have been handled differently, and hopefully we will be able to come up with an effective policy that prevents anything like this in the future. Unfortunately, crafting a good policy that effectively contends with things that we're expecting to run into when managing add-ons of this nature will take time. We'll need to consider many guidelines including initial level and type of participation, upkeep costs (if any), limits on requests, and methods of upkeep to name a few things.

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:44 pm
by HardCore
"Unfortunately, crafting a good policy that effectively contends with things that we're expecting to run into when managing add-ons of this nature will take time. We'll need to consider many guidelines including initial level and type of participation, upkeep costs (if any), limits on requests, and methods of upkeep to name a few things." I'd be happy to help start a draft of this new policy since I have already solved the initial dueling expansion request.

Expansion #1 : Solved. New arena will be up and running by tomorrow to accommodate multiple duels (Red Skull Bay and "need catchy new name for arena).

Expansion #2 : Solved. Red healer for instant rezzes.

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Don't forget to continue to use the dock and vendors....Yar!

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Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:55 pm
by Kaivan
You're welcome to utilize old arenas from prior town add-ons, but those add-ons will be subject to the new policy with respect to the guilds that they were previously associated with. Unfortunately, you cannot just move in and claim an old set of add-ons at this time.

As for the policy itself, it will be written internally.

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:14 pm
by Brules
Kaivan wrote:
As for the policy itself, it will be written internally.
So no input from the players?

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:17 pm
by Kaivan
We may solicit some player input once a draft is complete, but I don't see player input coming into the equation before that time.

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:23 am
by HardCore
Unfortunately, you cannot just move in and claim an old set of add-ons at this time.
I can't? That's exactly what I did. Anyone can move wherever they want and claim it as their guild town. It's our sandbox. I'm going to place a house in Bucs Den and claim that as The Core's pirate town.

Since you aren't able to take away any add-ons based on your prior statements, the new arena now belongs to [PEE]. The chances of any sort of new policy on town add-ons hitting the shard is slim to none. Feel free to stop by and watch some duels whenever you want!

Yar!

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:10 am
by Kaivan
HardCore wrote:
Unfortunately, you cannot just move in and claim an old set of add-ons at this time.
I can't? That's exactly what I did. Anyone can move wherever they want and claim it as their guild town. It's our sandbox. I'm going to place a house in Bucs Den and claim that as The Core's pirate town.

Since you aren't able to take away any add-ons based on your prior statements, the new arena now belongs to [PEE]. The chances of any sort of new policy on town add-ons hitting the shard is slim to none. Feel free to stop by and watch some duels whenever you want!

Yar!
Actually, you just moved in and started using existing add-ons. We don't recognize them as yours.

Oh, and if it were deemed necessary, we could remove it despite previous statements, as we are free to revise our current position at any point in time. We don't have any particular reason for doing so just now, but you can't hang our statements over us as a vehicle to do something that isn't a recognized practice.

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:54 am
by tekai
I can't believe an adult just posted that.

Just wow.

I feel really bad for Derrick. His legacy is "Gave shard to terrible person"

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:04 am
by Kaivan
You're free to think that its childish that we are free to respond by removing decorations when a group of players move in and claim it as their own, and then demands that we treat it as theirs and do things for them, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a reasonable response to an unreasonable action.

However, you will refrain from attacking myself or any other staff member publicly on the forums any more. You have not contributed to any discussion, nor brought up any reasonable criticism; your actions here - and in other threads - have served only as attacks. Don't do it again.

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:07 am
by Brules
tekai wrote:I can't believe an adult just posted that.

Just wow.

I feel really bad for Derrick. His legacy is "Gave shard to terrible person"
I miss Derrick. Really really really miss him........

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:10 am
by Capitalist
Brules wrote:
tekai wrote:I can't believe an adult just posted that.

Just wow.

I feel really bad for Derrick. His legacy is "Gave shard to terrible person"
I miss Derrick. Really really really miss him........
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Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:55 am
by WarmApplepie
This is truly unbelievable, a player trying to spice up the action on uosa makes a post about using an old arena and GM rains on said parade with, I can take it away if I want? Dafuq. Wouldn't the correct action be to say, "Awesome job. If there's anything you need from us lmk. I'll look into seeing if I can get said requests to happen."

Dat Chit Cray

Re: Community Poll - Dueling Dock Expansion

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:04 am
by TI_Smithy
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