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Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:49 am
by azheman
(08:31:43) » ChanServ ‹+b› *!*@unaffiliated/azheman
(08:31:43) » Azheman was kicked by ChanServ ‹Banned: Trash Talk›
Is it trash talk if it's true?
This is a legitimate question.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:15 pm
by Lord Mammoth
Derrick wrote:[*]Absolutely no flaming and bashing of other users in the channel. This is what #uosecondagetears is for, as well as private messaging, your own channel, and the trash talk forums.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:16 pm
by Boondock_Saint
Haha.. I see a Free Azheman campaign originating.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:20 pm
by Lord Mammoth
Boondock_Saint wrote:Haha.. I see a Free Azheman campaign originating.
All bans so far have been for five minutes or less. I know there are going to be some growing pains so don't expect any permanent bans.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:33 pm
by hifi
azheman wrote:(08:31:43) » ChanServ ‹+b› *!*@unaffiliated/azheman
(08:31:43) » Azheman was kicked by ChanServ ‹Banned: Trash Talk›
Is it trash talk if it's true?
This is a legitimate question.
Regardless, a single line comment isn't worth picking a fight with the players. This just adds more friction between the players and the staff.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:01 pm
by azheman
Agreed.
There needs to be a middle ground.
It's the people like MV that go on a 30 minute tirade of spam, swearing, emo bullsh*t, that should be perma-banned.
Some friendly banter is not ruining the shard. Over-regulation is not the answer.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:19 pm
by Lord Mammoth
azheman wrote:Agreed.
There needs to be a middle ground.
It's the people like MV that go on a 30 minute tirade of spam, swearing, emo bullsh*t, that should be perma-banned.
Some friendly banter is not ruining the shard. Over-regulation is not the answer.
You are using the term friendly rather loosely. One would think you would need to be friends with the person first. I am all for whatever middle ground is decided works best. Just be advised if your middle ground causes someone to go off the handle both parties are gone.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:38 pm
by Freight Elevator
The best option here is to ban everyone from IRC and make them talk shit in game.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:04 pm
by Malaikat
The benefits of player involvement through drama and ego-building are too great. Irc and forums give people a "public" platform to beat there chests and showboat a little. It's all in fun and anyone who takes internet bullying serious...shouldn't.
Not in an anonymous / aliased community.
My argument is that if you're not going to take measures to clean up in-game content (and by god please don't) then why bother to create a false environment whereby to shelter people? I mean, why aren't the game rules mirrored in the main / default community portals and the secondary channels be created for people as an escape?
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:01 pm
by AlexCCCP
Most innocuous trash talk ever... If that's bashing/trash talk than what category exists of CmaN.
I had to re-read to see if I missed something, saying a guy couldn't even kill 3 newbs or whatever the hell is not bashing, especially if it is true. Discussing in-game on-goings such as field PvP and whatever is not trash talk. I didn't see hifi saying "F* Vega you suxxors newb mofo, go die you f*g*t"
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:35 pm
by hifi
Malaikat wrote:My argument is that if you're not going to take measures to clean up in-game content (and by god please don't) then why bother to create a false environment whereby to shelter people? I mean, why aren't the game rules mirrored in the main / default community portals and the secondary channels be created for people as an escape?
That's a fairly good point. Though, keeping the forums more civil has some positive side effects regarding Google visibility as Derrick has pointed out in the past. IRC isn't "publicly visible" so what happens in Vegas...
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:14 am
by Sin Cloud
azheman wrote:Agreed.
There needs to be a middle ground.
It's the people like MV that go on a 30 minute tirade of spam, swearing, emo bullsh*t, that should be perma-banned.
Some friendly banter is not ruining the shard. Over-regulation is not the answer.
You know DAMN WELL that in-game trash talk is perfectly fine with me, but comments like..
Azheman: just fucking kill yourself already
or
Azheman: go cut yourself to death
That's the bullshit I'm talking about. This is NOT friendly banter, asshole. Notice, ever since I haven't had anyone wishing for my death irl, I haven't flipped out?
Don't be a douche and try to play innocent like you've kept shit in-game.
Now, on the topic of trash talk.. I believe it should allow any in-game trash talk all you want. It's when punks like Azheman and a few others has crossed the line, and have told another player to go end their life or some other irl bullshit is when the shit should hit the fan. Like talking about Hazy's child or some shit that I've seen in other threads, that's uncalled for. It's none of anyone's business.
Yes, I have said a few things that have totally crossed the line, but that was after the fact that I've been provoked by multiple people about shit that is totally irrelevant to UO.. I'm pretty sure this whole ban trash talk on irc all started because irl shit was mentioned.
On that note;
keep shit in-game!
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:19 am
by Boondock_Saint
Ah.. Well I would recommend banning azheman for 5 minute increments every 6 minutes.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:20 am
by azheman
Based on Sin Cloud's false accusations, time to move this thread to trash talk.
Probably not appropriate for secondage discussion, especially if it's available in public searches.
Get a life already. Please seek help.
Re: #secondage and trash talk
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:32 am
by Sin Cloud
azheman wrote:Based on Sin Cloud's false accusations, time to move this thread to trash talk.
Probably not appropriate for secondage discussion, especially if it's available in public searches.
Get a life already. Please seek help.
You seriously going to lie about it now?