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Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:54 am
by corruption42
MajesticWire wrote:
Light Shade wrote:
MajesticWire wrote:everyone knows that ONLY the centre of a tile in a small house is the safe place and if someone kills you there, then they are usually exploiting with some bug.. I think saying that it is era accurate is just a way of not bothering to fix it. Era accuracy is meant for things like spells, pet follower limits, etc.. it's not era accurate to be able to kill someone on that tile.. they 100% did not want this back then. cuz its SO SO obvious that it ruins the game.
Force people to log out of the game or start checking for those tiles to make sure house is secure is not a good thing. come on also take in consideration that most players are just playing the game and is not trying to exploite and find loopholes.
This has all been discussed in 30+ page long threads where even I got rather nasty about it while taking your side of the argument.

I don't like it. I think it recreates a gameplay environment that never actually was. Granted, the fact that it never existed was due to player ignorance of the possibility and OSI Staff Policy on such things, but we all know this shard doesn't follow OSI Policies. Regardless, it is what it is and you should conduct yourself accordingly. Learn to play with it. Everyone else has.

Bottom Line: Its here to stay because it was mechanically possible during the era. Carry on.

Learn to play with it rofl... a bug like this makes people quit. getting told that it is here to stay makes people quit Deal with that..

No server should have exploites like this. its just damn retarded nothing else.. and the fact that its not like this on most UO shards proves that its a failure even more..
No good can come from this at all. and even thou people might not have found this bug due to player ignorance its still a bug and exploite - this can't be disconsion.

Its here to stay, maby majestic is not.
If you think that an appeal that they'll be losing you over this will actually help; think again. Perhaps you should actually review those previous threads which include sentiments from the staff -- which includes that they will not be appealed to for the 'good of the popultation' when known-accurate mechanics are the question of the day.

This is not a new issue, this was present long before I joined this shard -- and I knew the risks coming in. I still joined. There seems to have been a recent influx of new players as well. If you aren't willing to stick it out, then there's always the option of not playing, but going on like this is unbecoming of any adult and you won't get your way because you throw a fit.

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:00 am
by MajesticWire

If you think that an appeal that they'll be losing you over this will actually help; think again. Perhaps you should actually review those previous threads which include sentiments from the staff -- which includes that they will not be appealed to for the 'good of the popultation' when known-accurate mechanics are the question of the day.

This is not a new issue, this was present long before I joined this shard -- and I knew the risks coming in. I still joined. There seems to have been a recent influx of new players as well. If you aren't willing to stick it out, then there's always the option of not playing, but going on like this is unbecoming of any adult and you won't get your way because you throw a fit.

If your not supose to appeal if there is something you dont like your not living in the same world as i am.. its like in politics, if there is something your not happy with or thinks need to be changed. then you keep taking that supject up for debated even thou many things have been said in the past.

Im not trying to say that if its not fixed Majestic will leave..(cuz we love uo to much)

Im saying that i personly cant live with something that Obvious is a bug that is not getting fixed. i cant put my trust into that this server will gain alot of players and will become relly funny to play again witch errors like these around after so many years.

I bet uosa allready lost alot of people due to this failure / bug and most of all seeing that the GMs is reject to fix it, this just gives Uosa a bad view for the Uo player in in gernaral.

I just try put some light on this issue again and i dont relly care about all the old threads, besides no videos about this so i tought people might think different when seeing how its done.

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:02 am
by Freight Elevator
haha era accuracy lol

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:13 am
by Abyz
Ya, razor target relative location is very era accurate dontcha know?

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:14 am
by corruption42
MajesticWire wrote:

If you think that an appeal that they'll be losing you over this will actually help; think again. Perhaps you should actually review those previous threads which include sentiments from the staff -- which includes that they will not be appealed to for the 'good of the popultation' when known-accurate mechanics are the question of the day.

This is not a new issue, this was present long before I joined this shard -- and I knew the risks coming in. I still joined. There seems to have been a recent influx of new players as well. If you aren't willing to stick it out, then there's always the option of not playing, but going on like this is unbecoming of any adult and you won't get your way because you throw a fit.

If your not supose to appeal if there is something you dont like your not living in the same world as i am.. its like in politics, if there is something your not happy with or thinks need to be changed. then you keep taking that supject up for debated even thou many things have been said in the past.

Im not trying to say that if its not fixed Majestic will leave..(cuz we love uo to much)

Im saying that i personly cant live with something that Obvious is a bug that is not getting fixed. i cant put my trust into that this server will gain alot of players and will become relly funny to play again witch errors like these around after so many years.

I bet uosa allready lost alot of people due to this failure / bug and most of all seeing that the GMs is reject to fix it, this just gives Uosa a bad view for the Uo player in in gernaral.

I just try put some light on this issue again and i dont relly care about all the old threads, besides no videos about this so i tought people might think different when seeing how its done.

Yes, cuz rehashing the same tired arguments over and over that have been shot down for 1+ years ALWAYS tend to get people to sway their opinions.

You misunderstand me. If you have a valid, new point -- one that is about era accuracy -- that relates to this issue, bring it up. Otherwise you're repeating the same song and dance thats been repeated for over a year, and not doing it any different than others before you. The GM's have made it abundantly clear that this is an issue of accurate mechanics, and as such is not going to be leaving. There simply is nothing to appeal to: you'd be more effective talking to a brick wall about this issue, because as it stands now its not going away.

My point is your appeal to emotions isn't just falling on deaf ears, its a year plus too late.

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:35 am
by KingCo
My my someones panties are stuck way up the olle twat hole.. try pullin those out you may feel better.
its happen to everyone learn to live with it or stfu an leave already noone cares.. thanks

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:30 pm
by MajesticWire
corruption42 wrote:
MajesticWire wrote:

If you think that an appeal that they'll be losing you over this will actually help; think again. Perhaps you should actually review those previous threads which include sentiments from the staff -- which includes that they will not be appealed to for the 'good of the popultation' when known-accurate mechanics are the question of the day.

This is not a new issue, this was present long before I joined this shard -- and I knew the risks coming in. I still joined. There seems to have been a recent influx of new players as well. If you aren't willing to stick it out, then there's always the option of not playing, but going on like this is unbecoming of any adult and you won't get your way because you throw a fit.

If your not supose to appeal if there is something you dont like your not living in the same world as i am.. its like in politics, if there is something your not happy with or thinks need to be changed. then you keep taking that supject up for debated even thou many things have been said in the past.

Im not trying to say that if its not fixed Majestic will leave..(cuz we love uo to much)

Im saying that i personly cant live with something that Obvious is a bug that is not getting fixed. i cant put my trust into that this server will gain alot of players and will become relly funny to play again witch errors like these around after so many years.

I bet uosa allready lost alot of people due to this failure / bug and most of all seeing that the GMs is reject to fix it, this just gives Uosa a bad view for the Uo player in in gernaral.

I just try put some light on this issue again and i dont relly care about all the old threads, besides no videos about this so i tought people might think different when seeing how its done.

Yes, cuz rehashing the same tired arguments over and over that have been shot down for 1+ years ALWAYS tend to get people to sway their opinions.

You misunderstand me. If you have a valid, new point -- one that is about era accuracy -- that relates to this issue, bring it up. Otherwise you're repeating the same song and dance thats been repeated for over a year, and not doing it any different than others before you. The GM's have made it abundantly clear that this is an issue of accurate mechanics, and as such is not going to be leaving. There simply is nothing to appeal to: you'd be more effective talking to a brick wall about this issue, because as it stands now its not going away.

My point is your appeal to emotions isn't just falling on deaf ears, its a year plus too late.

Yeah i see your point, but honestly how would i dig up proves about something thats over 10 years old and for long have decayed. Lets just belive with gets told to us.

To many have been brainwashed in this shard.. !

saying this is era accurate mechanics just proves how clueless some people are. IF a GM said this is the truth lets just belive him. uhm. ¨

Il end this debate by saying that Derrick and his staff is completly wrong about this era accurate shit. GMs are not gods GMs doesnt know everything and becuz they say it was like this back then doesnt make it right. beside this is a runUO bug so i dotn even know where they get these data from. but ye fuck it..

I was just trying to help with what i tought would be a big deal for many people.

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:33 pm
by MajesticWire
KingCo wrote:My my someones panties are stuck way up the olle twat hole.. try pullin those out you may feel better.
its happen to everyone learn to live with it or stfu an leave already noone cares.. thanks

My my what a intelligent input from your side. a guy like u are the reason why people move on to other games and shards.


Your a prolly the type that sit all day thinkin you so clever, when infact you where dropped behind the same shit van where u was born in.

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:49 pm
by Boone
Forget it.

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:53 pm
by Freight Elevator
Boone wrote:for free
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Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:58 pm
by corruption42
MajesticWire wrote:
corruption42 wrote:
MajesticWire wrote:

If you think that an appeal that they'll be losing you over this will actually help; think again. Perhaps you should actually review those previous threads which include sentiments from the staff -- which includes that they will not be appealed to for the 'good of the popultation' when known-accurate mechanics are the question of the day.

This is not a new issue, this was present long before I joined this shard -- and I knew the risks coming in. I still joined. There seems to have been a recent influx of new players as well. If you aren't willing to stick it out, then there's always the option of not playing, but going on like this is unbecoming of any adult and you won't get your way because you throw a fit.

If your not supose to appeal if there is something you dont like your not living in the same world as i am.. its like in politics, if there is something your not happy with or thinks need to be changed. then you keep taking that supject up for debated even thou many things have been said in the past.

Im not trying to say that if its not fixed Majestic will leave..(cuz we love uo to much)

Im saying that i personly cant live with something that Obvious is a bug that is not getting fixed. i cant put my trust into that this server will gain alot of players and will become relly funny to play again witch errors like these around after so many years.

I bet uosa allready lost alot of people due to this failure / bug and most of all seeing that the GMs is reject to fix it, this just gives Uosa a bad view for the Uo player in in gernaral.

I just try put some light on this issue again and i dont relly care about all the old threads, besides no videos about this so i tought people might think different when seeing how its done.

Yes, cuz rehashing the same tired arguments over and over that have been shot down for 1+ years ALWAYS tend to get people to sway their opinions.

You misunderstand me. If you have a valid, new point -- one that is about era accuracy -- that relates to this issue, bring it up. Otherwise you're repeating the same song and dance thats been repeated for over a year, and not doing it any different than others before you. The GM's have made it abundantly clear that this is an issue of accurate mechanics, and as such is not going to be leaving. There simply is nothing to appeal to: you'd be more effective talking to a brick wall about this issue, because as it stands now its not going away.

My point is your appeal to emotions isn't just falling on deaf ears, its a year plus too late.

Yeah i see your point, but honestly how would i dig up proves about something thats over 10 years old and for long have decayed. Lets just belive with gets told to us.

To many have been brainwashed in this shard.. !

saying this is era accurate mechanics just proves how clueless some people are. IF a GM said this is the truth lets just belive him. uhm. ¨

Il end this debate by saying that Derrick and his staff is completly wrong about this era accurate shit. GMs are not gods GMs doesnt know everything and becuz they say it was like this back then doesnt make it right. beside this is a runUO bug so i dotn even know where they get these data from. but ye fuck it..

I was just trying to help with what i tought would be a big deal for many people.

If you'd actually read the other threads, you would find plenty of evidence to show, both past and present, that this exists in live shards... not just in T2A. Just because its a flaw in RunUO doesn't mean it didn't exist elsewhere.

Also, you're welcome to your opinion, but era accuracy is the only thing that makes this shard what it is. If you don't like that slant, you're welcome to leave -- but your ranting and raving does nothing but make you look infantile.

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:00 pm
by MajesticWire
Boone!


Insult the staff ? have u been in school.. ?
just becuz you say some one is wrong its not insulting them.

I respect Derrick and his crew for creating this for us, but i still dont have to agree with everything they say.

What i have done to show i like and appreciate this shard can be shown on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MajesticUOIPY

I just want to make it better, i make videos that premote this shard and i allready got 20 plus people start here. Just by contact via youtube. I honestly just wanna help make this place to be a better shard.

so please think before u write, atleast if its me you talking to.

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:35 pm
by Boone
You're right, I was too harsh, so I edited my post even before you replied. I think you have good intentions, but I just felt like you were lashing out against the staff for their direction of the shard that they have worked hard to maintain.

In regards to your videos, I think it's an excellent idea, but think it's a shame that you use those client mods as it gives the wrong impression about the shard (ice halberds etc).

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:45 pm
by corruption42
Boone wrote:You're right, I was too harsh, so I edited my post even before you replied. I think you have good intentions, but I just felt like you were lashing out against the staff for their direction of the shard that they have worked hard to maintain.

This. Yelling about how GM's have people brainwashed, and 'era accurate b.s.' yada yada does not endear yourself. If you respect what they've provided as a shard (regardless of problems or otherwise) then at least show respect to them for it.

Re: A part of the game you say ??

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:53 pm
by MajesticWire
Boone wrote:You're right, I was too harsh, so I edited my post even before you replied. I think you have good intentions, but I just felt like you were lashing out against the staff for their direction of the shard that they have worked hard to maintain.

Its all good man. It wasn't my intention to make any feel like that or the staff.

I do admire people that can take the time and recreate what we all once loved i know how much work it is since i had good contacs to many GMs over the years playing.

Havent even been a decent europa t2a free shard to play since way back then Blitzkrieg.


I wish i had started many years ago myself and then i might have been a coder for a lovely t2a Uo shard :D especially with all the love i carry for Ultima Online :D