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Pirul · Post by **Pirul** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:00 pm

Vega, my friend, I fear you're fighting a loosing battle. People don't give a rat's ass about the time you spent building something up, they'll rip it out from under you in a sec if given the chance. Actually, the longer you spent "working" for something, the more enjoyment some people get from taking it away from you. I don't think complainig about posting an IDOC compares to complaining about getting PKed straight up, but it is not very different in the sense that you are complaining about something someone did to aggravate you. Not much different than posting complaining that someone looted your house, or stole your +10 silver viking sword of force at WBB.

Also, I'm surprised Kaivan visited this thread and didn't send it to TT, where it belongs.

The oOo · Post by **The oOo** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:05 pm

oooOoO sweet! a troll thread!

Being new to the shard here is my 2c

LARGE housing here is consolidated to the very rich, for no other reason I can see than to make ludicrous profits from selling these same houses to the newer player base wishing to move up in the world.

This is NOT a complaint, merely an observation.

IDOCs are ONE way for a new player to get around this. By placing a small and gaining a larger spot new players have a chance to move up. Conversely they can go for IDOC loot till they've made enough gold to purchase a larger house from a Vet player, at exorbitant cost [usually twice deed price]...either way it is a steep uphill battle. But it IS very possible.

That being said...it is a conundrum to be certain...

I've put the hours in here searching, finding, timing & camping several IDOCs for both loot and housing and been very successful [for me] in achieving my goals. I've gone up against Vega on several...he is good at what he does, when he's on a site I know my chances of success are lower than normal.

Being a new player to the server working IDOCs, I for one would not want an IDOC I was camping to be posted in the forums.

Sure, it 'possibly' gets the word out to a broader segment of NEW players IF they read the forums. I simply wouldn't want the additional VET competition in any fashion...ultimately, it does the new players competing for unattended IDOCs [yes, they can be found!] a disservice by posting them on the forums, and more to the point simply AIDS the VET IDOCers...and Griefers.

If you are a new player to the server, and want to do IDOCs to get ahead...you do NOT want them posted forums. You do NOT want the additional competition.

Just so it's clear, I could care less one way or the other. I go to the posted ones if I want some fun. The only benefit I get from IDOC postings is that it ties up the playerbase anywhere else other than MY quiet little IDOCs.

Sorry this is so long but ooOOoOooOo!!

Capitalist · Post by **Capitalist** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:11 pm

The oOo wrote:Just so it's clear, I could care less one way or the other. I go to the posted ones if I want some fun. The only benefit I get from IDOC postings is that it ties up the playerbase anywhere else other than MY quiet little IDOCs.

This happened earlier. I was at an L when a brick fell.

Emforcer92 · Post by **Emforcer92** » Mon May 06, 2013 1:12 pm

Pirul wrote:Vega, my friend, I fear you're fighting a loosing battle. People don't give a rat's ass about the time you spent building something up, they'll rip it out from under you in a sec if given the chance. Actually, the longer you spent "working" for something, the more enjoyment some people get from taking it away from you. I don't think complainig about posting an IDOC compares to complaining about getting PKed straight up, but it is not very different in the sense that you are complaining about something someone did to aggravate you. Not much different than posting complaining that someone looted your house, or stole your +10 silver viking sword of force at WBB.

Also, I'm surprised Kaivan visited this thread and didn't send it to TT, where it belongs.

That reminds me, not too long ago, everyone laughed at the guy that got his keep looted dry by a newbie.
Or even better, Vega's comment to a newbie that got scammed out of 45K worth of Ingots was : "lmao"

But god forbid someone posts IDOCs, Neon Purple Sandals or Red Orc Helms may be at stake !!!

Post by **Budner** » Mon May 06, 2013 2:15 pm

That's a lot of words from a lot of people. My two cents:

1) If I find an IDOC, I damn sure don't tell anyone.
2) I'm very grateful to hear about IDOCs from others. Not that I can ever stay up into the wee hours of the morning when these things tend to fall.

iamreallysquall · Post by **iamreallysquall** » Mon May 06, 2013 4:41 pm

Pirul wrote:Vega, my friend, I fear you're fighting a loosing battle. People don't give a rat's ass about the time you spent building something up, they'll rip it out from under you in a sec if given the chance. Actually, the longer you spent "working" for something, the more enjoyment some people get from taking it away from you. I don't think complainig about posting an IDOC compares to complaining about getting PKed straight up, but it is not very different in the sense that you are complaining about something someone did to aggravate you. Not much different than posting complaining that someone looted your house, or stole your +10 silver viking sword of force at WBB.

Also, I'm surprised Kaivan visited this thread and didn't send it to TT, where it belongs.

^ so many tears in this thread should be Trash talk imo

Courtney Love · Post by **Courtney Love** » Mon May 06, 2013 5:07 pm

Emforcer92 wrote:
Pirul wrote:Vega, my friend, I fear you're fighting a loosing battle. People don't give a rat's ass about the time you spent building something up, they'll rip it out from under you in a sec if given the chance. Actually, the longer you spent "working" for something, the more enjoyment some people get from taking it away from you. I don't think complainig about posting an IDOC compares to complaining about getting PKed straight up, but it is not very different in the sense that you are complaining about something someone did to aggravate you. Not much different than posting complaining that someone looted your house, or stole your +10 silver viking sword of force at WBB.

Also, I'm surprised Kaivan visited this thread and didn't send it to TT, where it belongs.
That reminds me, not too long ago, everyone laughed at the guy that got his keep looted dry by a newbie.
Or even better, Vega's comment to a newbie that got scammed out of 45K worth of Ingots was : "lmao"

But god forbid someone posts IDOCs, Neon Purple Sandals or Red Orc Helms may be at stake !!!

Epic...

Capitalist · Post by **Capitalist** » Mon May 06, 2013 5:11 pm

Emforcer92 wrote:
Pirul wrote:Vega, my friend, I fear you're fighting a loosing battle. People don't give a rat's ass about the time you spent building something up, they'll rip it out from under you in a sec if given the chance. Actually, the longer you spent "working" for something, the more enjoyment some people get from taking it away from you. I don't think complainig about posting an IDOC compares to complaining about getting PKed straight up, but it is not very different in the sense that you are complaining about something someone did to aggravate you. Not much different than posting complaining that someone looted your house, or stole your +10 silver viking sword of force at WBB.

Also, I'm surprised Kaivan visited this thread and didn't send it to TT, where it belongs.
That reminds me, not too long ago, everyone laughed at the guy that got his keep looted dry by a newbie.
Or even better, Vega's comment to a newbie that got scammed out of 45K worth of Ingots was : "lmao"

But god forbid someone posts IDOCs, Neon Purple Sandals or Red Orc Helms may be at stake !!!

He wasn't scammed. That (already warned for language) NOT SO INTELLIGENT INDIVIDUAL WITH A POSSIBLE LEARNING DISABILITY made a stupid move. No one tricked him into doing anything that wasn't common sense. The guy who got his keep looted was from N-S. People from N-S have (watching my language since this is somehow not in trash talk) problems with the people who conceived them showing them favor if ya know what I mean.

kevin-theidocghost · Post by **kevin-theidocghost** » Mon May 06, 2013 5:24 pm

Trash talk please ill revisit once its been moved

Courtney Love · Post by **Courtney Love** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:01 pm

" -1 by Vega on Mon May 06, 2013 10:59 am

Your word is not gold on this one."

--And for the record I didnt give you my word on anything - I gave my thoughts in a post and you got mad.

lol Vega gave me -1 rep because we dont agree... my first negative rep ever on forums. Thats really professional and well thought out! LOL ! Do you do that to everyone on forums you dont agree with? What a joke!

Pac · Post by **Pac** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:11 pm

Vega is the #1 reason why all IDOCs should be publicly announced.

raysmage · Post by **raysmage** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:18 pm

good point Courtney!

Courtney Love · Post by **Courtney Love** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:22 pm

raysmage wrote:good point Courtney!

Thank You Sir

Unknown Unknown · Post by **Unknown Unknown** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:35 pm

Pac wrote:Vega is the #1 reason why all IDOCs should be publicly announced.

pretty much...sooo tempted to get back into idocing just to publicize them and plant tons of tinker boxes haha

Post by **Budner** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:40 pm

You know, this world would be a better place if everyone would just love one another. Bitches.

UO Second Age

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