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Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:32 am
by brandonsantacruz
I think that you are forgetting that murder counts go away and that you can delete/re-create characters. Might up your numbers there.

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:13 am
by Stinkfink
keuse wrote: Ok so I understand
I dont think that you do. Your post is just an angered rant cause you found yourself dead. Its full of shit and makes you look stupid. By the end of it you show that you DO NOT understand much at all.
keuse wrote: I SORT of kind of understand doing it to bards
There are a LOT of bards that macro with 'SORT of kind of' a lot of shit on them. But other peoples stupidity is not in question here.
keuse wrote: (yes I understand mentoning their name accredits to online fame and will cause them to continue doing it)
We did not start yesterday, unlike your thread, and therefore will have zero influence on what we do in game.
keuse wrote: which is obviuosly one guy
This is 'obviously' a very narrow minded point of view and 100% inaccurate.
keuse wrote: out to deliberatly destroy the playerbase of the shard]
Here you fail entirely.

1. There is no reason for us to want to deminish the playerbase of the shard. Reducing the amount of people means less loots. I realize that there are people out there in the UO world who play with this goal, but this was never the intention here.

2. It has already been said ....
Edie Brickell wrote: If someone is goign to quit the shard because their macroer got killed then it was just a matter of time before they quit ove something equally as trivial.
This kind of person would be better suited to a different shard, or game.

3. The owner/staff/players did not buy your 'it will be the end of the world if this is not stopped' routine. Did you really think because someone left a character unattended in a public place and it was killed that they would start making changes towards the trammy environment you probably desire. Your judgement is as shit as your 'understanding'.
keuse wrote: Whenever I see someone killing afkers and I confront them advising them that they will lead to the downfall of the shard - they say something along the lines of “I don’t care” “cry me a river” blah blah blah.
Like this?
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Good to know really stupid sayings still frustrate really stupid people.
keuse wrote: Although I understand the argument of “go macro somewhere else”
As far as barding goes, if you are new (like me) your only spot is Britain for barding
Didnt we ALL laugh at this?
Ronk wrote: I just got done macroing provoke from 0 to 90 with zero interruptions or problems in Delucia.
Hernando_Kortez wrote:I did provoke to GM in Trinsic Stables, there's more than one way to block animals...
Nothing more needed to be said really.
keuse wrote: Can we do something about this?
There are lots of things you can do about it. But dont expect us to start helping out with advice. You say you 'understand' everything. You seem to be a master at stating the 'obvious' (from your point of view). But you cant work out how to not be killed in Brit stable?

So out of your entire post I can find 3 things we can agree are fact...
1.
keuse wrote: Theres nothing more frustrating than being excited that you got a whole 9 hour work day in of macroing to come home and find your char had its instruments stolen and/or killed a mere 30 minutes after you left to work
This is frustrating yes, and we too have been killed macro'ing in town when we were new. Thats UO. Its half the reason we like this game, and this kind of shard. If you want trammel, move to trammel.

2. You macro'd hiding in the inn.

3. We killed you.

Next time you want to come and talk shit about our actions and motives at least have half a clue what the fuck you are dribbling on about rather than just wildly spreading your verbal stool sample because your UO macro is the most important thing in your life, and you are mad that we ruined it. You are a true fucking moron and you would be well advised to keep your shit to yourself.

Sorry to all for the long post. As you see I dont post often. But if he wants to post this shit ...

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:59 am
by keuse
regardless of what nonsense of an argument you put together in attempt to bring some legitimancy to the fact that you are town killing...

the fact remains:

you are going out of your way (at 2-7 in the morning - which means I doubt you have a job and/or a social life) to grief/kill people (a played-out playstyle) in a game that is so old already that griefing people at this point is like beating a dead horse with a stick thinking that theres still some life left.

I won't leave because of it (Congrats killing me last night but Im now done macroing so you wont get the chance again) - but when you make other people leave , regardless if they were going to "quit eventually" - those people add to higher population numbers that in turn attract other players that otherwise would have not played the shard.

I know when I first looked at the shard the only thing that was stopping me was the population numbers, luckily I have lots of old friends that convinced me to come on here and have had fun since.

Why do I have to macro to in del or trinsic? My main warrior usually farms in covetous and around that area and has no magery, so now I have to run another 10 minutes on a horse just to get to a town to give my bard a mere 3-5K gold then then another 15 minutes back just so that i can avoid some little immature kid? I dont sit around for hours on end playing UO (I might get an hour or two in every day or two depending on my scheduel)and as such, I want the time I play UO to be as efficient as possible with not a lot of running around. I leave macroing going so when I do actually have that little bit of time to get on UO I can play the game at the level that I want to play it at.

(edit: Yes i know "Farm more and make a cheque!" - but im macroing magery when im on my bard and dont have a lot of gold banked (Having to macro attendedly to avoid town killers) So I have to run gold back and forth to keep my macroing going steadily)



I used to townkill on IPY for resources and people that had racist names - but you are killing everyone with normal names and have no resources - theres no reason to do that other than creating a chain affect that will drop the population of the shard and/or prevent growth of new players that otherwise wouldnt have considered coming here.

But you know, whatever argument you can muster up to make yourself believe theres no harm in it. Oh and swear a lot too that makes you look educated.

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:32 am
by Clyde-
Ok here's what you do. Have someone pk you and record yourself clicking the "count as murder" option (the thing that comes up when you get pk'd that asks if you wanna report the person or not). Add that to w/e macro you're running so if you get townkilled it automatically counts the person and after a couple times he/she will be red and wont be able to kill you.

OR, dont afk macro.

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:09 pm
by Stinkfink
keuse wrote: you are going out of your way (at 2-7 in the morning - which means I doubt you have a job and/or a social life)
I am sorry I didnt make this clear for you in my original post, and as I had no intention of ever replying to anything you said again unfortunately I will clear this for you.
keuse wrote: you are going out of your way (at 2-7 in the morning - which means I doubt you have a job and/or a social life)
South pacific time zone. Work and other commitments on top of that. Again you show that you truly are mentally challenged.

Thanks for the laughs.

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:13 pm
by keuse
Yeah but I notice you did not care to comment on how I made a point that others will quit which brings the shard numbers down which in turn, turns away people from joining the shard.

fail.

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:56 pm
by ironfistmax
Everyone will have different opinions on what will turn players away from this shard. Some people think macroing will, some think afk townkilling or just afk killing will, some think pking will, some think not helping new players with gold will, some think having high vendor costs will, some think not enough spawn will, the list can go on. Just because you think it will, doesn’t mean he or anyone has the same opinion.

Most people that play UO by now know that UO is any “anything can happen” game, literally. You can die, lose your house, go into stat loss, lose connection, make a fortune at any given point in this game, which makes it great. With great freedom comes pros and cons.

I honestly think afk town killing is bad and good. It’s bad because “some” players might get discouraged and leave. It’s good because those players have to go out hunt, gather more resources, and make the community more alive.

In the end we all have views on what is and isn’t good for the shard. There is nothing wrong with giving your opinion on the subject but there is no need to try to force your opinions on each other.

The shard has been growing everyday since I came here many months ago. Maybe there are some things that are driving some players away but obviously we are doing a LOT of good things to bring and keep new players here.

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:34 pm
by Silverfoot
keuse wrote:Yeah but I notice you did not care to comment on how I made a point that others will quit which brings the shard numbers down which in turn, turns away people from joining the shard.

fail.
Honestly, if someone quits because they got killed in the middle of town afk macroing, they don't belong here. This is the t2a era, they are going to get griefed/pked many more times as they play here, and if they cannot handle it while they are a newbie with little to lose, then they probably aren't going to last long here anyway.

This shard has been growing steadily the several months I have been here and players have been killing afk town macroers since I started.

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:38 pm
by brandonsantacruz
That was an uncharacteristically moderate and thought-out post by max, did someone hack his account? :lol:

To respond to what you said, killing afks will probably turn away some, especially noobs who are indiscriminately killed for no real gain again and again. For most players, it's just an annoyance if it even happens to them. I'm going to start a related thread on how to improve the shard, because I think that's a discussion we don't have enough.

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:53 pm
by Mr.T
STOP killing afk macroers!!!!

I want more people to pvp with and more people to pk.....MORE PEOPLE on this shard!!!

If people keep killing macroers it ain't gonna happen!

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:59 pm
by ironfistmax
Mr.T wrote:STOP killing afk macroers!!!!

I want more people to pvp with and more people to pk.....MORE PEOPLE on this shard!!!

If people keep killing macroers it ain't gonna happen!
Then explain how the shard numbers keep growing?

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:00 pm
by ironfistmax
brandonsantacruz wrote:That was an uncharacteristically moderate and thought-out post by max, did someone hack his account? :lol:

To respond to what you said, killing afks will probably turn away some, especially noobs who are indiscriminately killed for no real gain again and again. For most players, it's just an annoyance if it even happens to them. I'm going to start a related thread on how to improve the shard, because I think that's a discussion we don't have enough.
I have some good posts, I just like to keep them short so I don't get in trouble at work!

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:14 pm
by alatar
Mr.T wrote:STOP killing afk macroers!!!!

I want more people to pvp with and more people to pk.....MORE PEOPLE on this shard!!!

If people keep killing macroers it ain't gonna happen!
if you want more people to fight then take the recall scroll out of your spellbook..

faceman = kal ort por..

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:31 pm
by keuse
ironfistmax wrote:
Mr.T wrote:STOP killing afk macroers!!!!

I want more people to pvp with and more people to pk.....MORE PEOPLE on this shard!!!

If people keep killing macroers it ain't gonna happen!
Then explain how the shard numbers keep growing?
part of the reason being that i have been pming everyone on other shards and in roleplaying communities that have ceased playing and spreading the word on every message board i frequent about this shard
i myself in the past two weeks have got over 20 people to join this shard , and with them come friends and word of mouth.

Re: Afk Killers/Griefers.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:51 pm
by Mr.T
alatar wrote:
Mr.T wrote:STOP killing afk macroers!!!!

I want more people to pvp with and more people to pk.....MORE PEOPLE on this shard!!!

If people keep killing macroers it ain't gonna happen!
if you want more people to fight then take the recall scroll out of your spellbook..

faceman = kal ort por..
Totally right alatar.... I haven't been playing uo for 8 years like you you know... I just started and I've already killed one of your cr3w members 1v1 so why dontcha be quiet.

And I recalled cause I had no refresh pots...no refresh pots or food against a macer is death...