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Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:55 pm
by tekai
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... 34a6785d23
One of the lovely parts about violating the Never Use Kill Orders rule. The
way that always works for me is to have them guard you, and you attack. As
soon as the target does you any damage, or if he targets you first and the
critter sees that, the critter will attack, and there is no bug associated
with this.
If one of your pets does go after you, even if you attacked it, just give it
ALL STOP and ALL STAY, and run away. I have had probes with bears, dragons,
wyrms, and survived quite well this way.
Im gonna find proof of all kill, this if fun
Oh an look at this, EV's hits are supposed to curse
Thing about EVs is they put you under an instant GM curse, you take a 10
point across the board hit to stats. For someone near their weight limit
they get overloaded and instant death. The graphics also have a tendancy to
lag the target if not out and out crash them, so that helps too.
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:00 pm
by Faust
Take what you want from the information son.
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:44 pm
by tekai
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... fcd37d326d
Off to Destard.
Victim spotted.
'all kill' for the next 5 minutes. (Hey its REALLY hard to command 27 polar
bears at once, follow fine, all kill, and against a dragon, well lets say
the pb's needed some convincing, but I'm sure what finally rallied them was
the sheer massiveness of their attack squad)
Victim is overwhelmed and protests greatly to the onslaught of fluffy white
bears. Many of our brave white furry arctic friends did go down in this
terrible battle, (and I mean MANY) but in the end, Red Dragon prevailed.
After the ceremonial taming of the champion, he was dubbed, "i eatpolar".
I guess I'm looking for feedback, is 50 pb's better than 27? 60 better than
50? Is it worth worrying over? Who's gonna be the next president?
Next mission: How many packhorses does it take to down an ancient wyrm.
Until next time, battle on my bretheren!
That was posted in november of 2000
How can you possibly defend that there was no all kill?
that post proves it
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:48 pm
by Faust
How do you know the guy didn't say "all kill" for each bear?
That is the problem with anecdotal evidence like the google groups.
You must be careful and only look at information in an order list fashion or step by step procedure, etc...
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:51 pm
by tekai
Oh comon, becuase he said right in the post that it was easy, if he had to say all kill 27 times i think he would have mentioned "Spamming" all kill
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:01 pm
by Faust
When there is a the possibility of doubt that can be argued with a piece of information it loses its reliability.
The other two pieces that you seemed to disregard "specifically" states that you had to tell each pet one by one to attack. This was in June 1999 and April 2000. This would mean a ninja patch happened not once, not twice, but three times removing, adding, and removing it again in a matter of a few months.
Do you honestly see a piece of information such as what you listed that can be easily argued against stacks up to the rest of the sources that disagree with it?
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:51 pm
by Mikel123
I think it's pretty clear he didn't say "all kill" 27 times. Also, people "spammed" "all kill" when it did work, just as often, because they didn't have GM taming and they would often fail commands.
It seems like the simplest explanation here is that "all kill" went in sometime between April 2000 and November 2000. Seems reasonable to me. Also don't forget there's the Pacific Rangers Council website had something supporting there being no "all kill" in T2A era. I can't find the site on archive though, at the moment.
This has been done to death. I tried to search for my prior posts about "all kill" and got the
"The following words in your search query were ignored because they are too common words: all kill."
It would be nice to stop beating a dead horse, and especially nice to stop hijacking threads.
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:24 pm
by MatronDeWinter
Can we talk about bolas now?
Also I think that [guarded] should be added in-game. That would be great to know the next time I follow someone to a group of heavy-xbow mages.
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:09 pm
by tekai
I only derailed becuase i had faust's attention and the bola thing was covered.
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:13 pm
by GuardianKnight
Why is matron using my cousin's picture on forums? Did you find that picture on google pictures?
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:23 am
by Pro
GuardianKnight wrote:Why is matron using my cousin's picture on forums? Did you find that picture on google pictures?
thats mike.
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:31 am
by Heskey
Not sure how this got onto pets and 'all' commands but back to bolas for a second.
They were a nice addition that ensured the unmounted (RPers for instance) could still stand a chance in combat... But I don't believe they were added until tribal mobs appeared, which I think was with UO3D.
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:28 am
by tekai
If you read the thread before I derailed it (i had fausts' attention) we already determined that bola's droped 1 month before the release of UOR, about 3 months past our cut-off date.
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:33 am
by Heskey
Oh I read it, was just providing my input.
I like to get involved, you see
Re: Bolas?
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:12 pm
by chainsoar
So....we don't get bolas?