Does anyone have a med formula

[Hoots]

Maybe faust or Derrick or the demo guys can answer this?

anyone have a documented med formula? % to pass or fail at using the skill.

Im not questioning any accuracy just curious about it.

In other words, with 105 int, 100 med. When do you have a 99 or 100% chance at success in the skill check?

Anyone have any forumlas on this? I had no lcuk on the google machine on the interweb.

[zzyzx]

I don't have an exact formula, just some observances...

All assume 100 int (mana).

With 50 med, you hardly fail starting meditation at 60 mana.
With 100 med, you hardly fail starting meditation at 10 mana.

So it seems it is close to 100% at (Mana - meditation) + 10...

Don't quote me on that though... just what I have observed.

This is how I train meditation past 60 or so. I simply drink some liquor (both in game and IRL) and wait for my mana to be 10 + my meditation skill and meditate.

[Mikel123]

Regardless of the formula, to train Meditation:

1) Buy a Wizard's Hat
2) Macro: Put on hat, Meditate, take hat off.

That works up through 60 skill and beyond. From 60 and up:

3) Buy some bottles of liquor/ale/wine.
4) Drink a few of them.
5) Make a macro that says "If Mana < 60, Meditate. Else Drink once from a bottle."

Don't worry about keeping the mana within a certain range. This will GM the skill within 24 hours (I got to 99.9 yesterday through overnight and lost connection sometime before the server restart... took me another 5 minutes to GM once I woke up and logged back on).

[Hoots]

Yeah zzyzx, i think it is probably something like that but when my scribe goes below 20 mana / 105 int (delta 85) i think he fails a decent amount.

I would think it is a simple forumla. Im just curious if anyone knows exactly what it is.

I have no concerns or questions on raising the skill.

[Faust]

Meditation doesn't exist in the demo and wasn't patched in until early '99.

The chance for sucess is based on the percentile of your mana in comparison with the skill.

Best Chance for Success = Int * (( 100 - Meditation Skill ) * 0.01)

The formula above only tells you the best chance to actually succeed/gain when using the meditation skill at specific mana levels.

[poogoblin]

I also found it virtually impossible to raise Med past 90ish with only 80int.

So if you are 100% sure you should be gaining and you don't have 100int, get up to 100int before finishing out your med

[Faust]

You must not have been doing it right if that is true.

[Hoots]

Meditation doesn't exist in the demo and wasn't patched in until early '99.

The chance for sucess is based on the percentile of your mana in comparison with the skill.

Best Chance for Success = Int * (( 100 - Meditation Skill ) * 0.01)

The formula above only tells you the best chance to actually succeed/gain when using the meditation skill at specific mana levels.

You lost me faust...

Should INt be mana available in the formula?

and 100 - 100 med skill *.01 is always going to be 0, leaving BCFS = Int in your formula.

Perhaps an example.

at 105 int, (wiz hat), 100 med skill and 30 available mana, can i calc my skill success chance to pass/fail?

and then at 20 mana, 10 mana, ect.

I know at 30/105 i still see med fails.
Thanks for the info btw

[MatronDeWinter]

This is the problem

http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8949

[poogoblin]

You must not have been doing it right if that is true.

What matron said, I'm sorry you seem to think everything ever done wrong has to be something incorrect with the user and not the system.

[Faust]

You must not have been doing it right if that is true.

What matron said, I'm sorry you seem to think everything ever done wrong has to be something incorrect with the user and not the system.

I have had no problems at all with Meditation. I started Meditation and Magery at 30ish and GM'd med by the time the Magery skill hit 65 no problem at all. This entire time I was gaining Int from the macro starting at 50. I simply re-adjusted the macro everytime my skill/int changed every in 10% intervals. It works just fine if you understand the formula for gaining that is listed on the Stratics '99 web site.

Meditation doesn't exist in the demo and wasn't patched in until early '99.

The chance for sucess is based on the percentile of your mana in comparison with the skill.

Best Chance for Success = Int * (( 100 - Meditation Skill ) * 0.01)

The formula above only tells you the best chance to actually succeed/gain when using the meditation skill at specific mana levels.

You lost me faust...

Should INt be mana available in the formula?

and 100 - 100 med skill *.01 is always going to be 0, leaving BCFS = Int in your formula.

Perhaps an example.

at 105 int, (wiz hat), 100 med skill and 30 available mana, can i calc my skill success chance to pass/fail?

and then at 20 mana, 10 mana, ect.

I know at 30/105 i still see med fails.
Thanks for the info btw

No, it should be your Int not the current mana available.

Here are some examples...

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int = 100
med = 75

int * (( 100 - med ) * 0.01 ) = 25 mana <--- Best possible gain rate

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int = 75
med = 95

int * (( 100 - med ) * 0.01 ) = 3.75 mana <--- Best possible gain rate

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int = 25
med = 99

int * (( 100 - med ) * 0.01 ) = 0.25 mana <--- Best possible gain rate

There is always a minimum value of 1 mana being the best possible gain rate if I am not mistaken too, btw...

The last example would fall under this category for example.

PS
I have no idea why I was thinking of "best success" rate was around the best "gain rate"... That is simply not true since we all know meditating at -1 mana from your max would be the best chance. I have no idea what the success rate would be at lower values at the moment...

[Hoots]

PS
I have no idea why I was thinking of "best success" rate was around the best "gain rate"... That is simply not true since we all know meditating at -1 mana from your max would be the best chance. I have no idea what the success rate would be at lower values at the moment...

Yeah, im not concerned with gain rate. Id like to know success chance.

I would think this has to be a very simple math check formula run every time someone hit the med button/macro.

Inputs (Int, med skill, mana) = Success/Fail

[archaicsubrosa77]

Baitlin hasn't been on as much as of late but he gets down into the programming quite a bit. If not Derrick himself then he would be the one most likely to help you from what I gather.

[Faust]

Batlin usually gets down into the programming aspect of the demo. However, meditation didn't exist at the time of the demo so it's very unlikely he will look into this ordeal unless he decides too. Only Derrick can really tell you what the success rates are unless he is using the default code. He still would have to let someone know that he is using the default regardless.

[poogoblin]

I am so not going to argue this, as it makes no point to since you're always right.

How's it feel to be a god?