Loving them pks and all but how about consistency?

[Corvin]

Its not intended to be a rage post. And I agree no use.


I don't know who "ace" is. ( I assume you admit that they are one person?) I am however saying a Debuff as an interupt is lame.

Using a bot or a skill less friend to come along and fluff you while you attempt pvp, is almost as insulting as a pk who runs in trying to ebolt spam you.

That shouldn't be an insult, but common sense.

What is the point of resist, or Wrestle if they DON'T allow you to get a spell off when under fire? This is probably 100% Era Accurate. Awesome! I have no problem with that. You have just over simplified pvp, and that is A O K.

The only thing it does is give me a better understanding of how this shard works.

That isn't rage, nor is it an insult to me to be "killed by ace". Know why? Because its a game. I wasn't killed by anyone. I was beated by someone who runs in, surprise attacks, uses the rules they understand (better then I) and wins.

Wow... Imagine that...

My problem is that over simplified rules, followed by over macroed, over abused accounts allows people to make PK's at a rate unrealistic to the ORIGINAL games stat loss system. Back then macroing 2 days was a BIG DEAL. Now, you do it while you work on 2 other pks.


My problem isn't pks. Its consistency or balance.

It doesn't bother me, that I might not be the best pvper. I don't have to measure my real life worth off a game. However, this game is fun. Its entertainment. So I want to help the admins here, reach that balance. Its not to complain but to better understand the problem.

[Chaos]

ahhh so era acc. lol got to learn the rules to win .. same as t2a (everyone learning) .. be cleaver and find a way to work with it ..

[Corvin]

ahhh so era acc. lol got to learn the rules to win .. same as t2a (everyone learning) .. be cleaver and find a way to work with it ..

Well then let me be the first or last to say @)(*#$ Era Accuracy.

I think highly of EVERY admin on this server. That isn't me being kiss ass, but real respect. They work hard for Zero reward. I assume its because they share the same goal, of what was fun about this Era that I also share. The same strive to make things better. Which has to seem almost impossible as they struggles against the multitudes of fags who try to use UO as a way to grief others.

Most of which have real saddening issues to why they do it, but that is another debate.

[Chaos]

i respect 2pac to much to see that dude with his poster up and thug life tatted on his stomch or ungodly growth he calls that

[Hemperor]

That isn't rage, nor is it an insult to me to be "killed by ace". Know why? Because its a game. I wasn't killed by anyone. I was beated by someone who runs in, surprise attacks, uses the rules they understand (better then I) and wins.

That is essentially what PKing is, and it's a major part of this era.

Also, debuffs always interrupting is in effect on AT LEAST 95% of the shards out there.

[Corvin]

That isn't rage, nor is it an insult to me to be "killed by ace". Know why? Because its a game. I wasn't killed by anyone. I was beated by someone who runs in, surprise attacks, uses the rules they understand (better then I) and wins.

That is essentially what PKing is, and it's a major part of this era.

Also, debuffs always interrupting is in effect on AT LEAST 95% of the shards out there.

I guess your right. It just seems lame that resist and wrestle never get passed a level one interrupt.

[Hoots]

Now I realize if you recall away you don't get to give a count.

That to be honest, never bothered me, even though its not era accurate. I have always recalled away, poisoned myself, killed myself in town, and gave the pks a much deserved count. But what was and what is, are two different things. This server is geared towards pks. We all know it. The only people that would argue it would be someone with three accounts of reds.

However, on timed spells like explosion, if you recall away and the spell kills you, why shouldn't you be able to give a count? I had three guys attack me in covetous. The brave 3 on one, guys didn't chase me far, as I was in the lich room and I had no where really to run. However, I got far enough away to let me mana get high enough to cast recall. (being a fighter class) As I do, they drop explosion bombs on me and when I get away, boom I die.

So I recall to town, then a second latter boom dead.

Why shouldn't I be able to give a count? I was damaged after the recall. Besides that they are pks and we love pks and thieves so much on this server?

Corvin, i was never one to recall and give a count to people. That being said, counts is one of those things that people have sort of stopped giving here...

Most reds who attacks a complete newb only do it for the count. They dont want your armor or 10 of each reag. i have noticed on my red that a lot of people dont count at all. They feel it is a reward for you to count you...

Its hard to find PK targets here...and unless you are playing 24-7 most reds who macro counts at night or during the day while they are at work will never get too far into stat.

So while your question is valid about being able to give a count... I dont think it will matter to most.

[Corvin]

Now I realize if you recall away you don't get to give a count.

That to be honest, never bothered me, even though its not era accurate. I have always recalled away, poisoned myself, killed myself in town, and gave the pks a much deserved count. But what was and what is, are two different things. This server is geared towards pks. We all know it. The only people that would argue it would be someone with three accounts of reds.

However, on timed spells like explosion, if you recall away and the spell kills you, why shouldn't you be able to give a count? I had three guys attack me in covetous. The brave 3 on one, guys didn't chase me far, as I was in the lich room and I had no where really to run. However, I got far enough away to let me mana get high enough to cast recall. (being a fighter class) As I do, they drop explosion bombs on me and when I get away, boom I die.

So I recall to town, then a second latter boom dead.

Why shouldn't I be able to give a count? I was damaged after the recall. Besides that they are pks and we love pks and thieves so much on this server?

Corvin, i was never one to recall and give a count to people. That being said, counts is one of those things that people have sort of stopped giving here...

Most reds who attacks a complete newb only do it for the count. They dont want your armor or 10 of each reag. i have noticed on my red that a lot of people dont count at all. They feel it is a reward for you to count you...

Its hard to find PK targets here...and unless you are playing 24-7 most reds who macro counts at night or during the day while they are at work will never get too far into stat.

So while your question is valid about being able to give a count... I dont think it will matter to most.

I don't think you understand the system. Posting a million gold wont hurt the pk. Hell he will turn in his own head. However, a count (posting 1 gold) gives him a count. That in turn gives him stat loss if he dies. So if he gains to much stat loss, and ever does in fact die, he can in many cases, never rez. Why? because unless he spends all day everyday macroing, then he is screwed.


What people do here to get around it, is abuse the account system here. They have 3 accounts and while two characters are macroing to be a pk, the other they can play. So then when the pk they have eventually dies, they can simply delete him and use a reserve pk.

Its simplistic, but expected. People in this sort of game, will cheat anyway they can. Integrity is only for victims, or guys who play a game to have fun, not get back at the Dad who would never hug them, nor the Uncle who did....

Another words, so be it. I can either accept the need for a botched system, or move along. I barely have time to play anyways.

[Hoots]

I don't think you understand the system. Posting a million gold wont hurt the pk. Hell he will turn in his own head. However, a count (posting 1 gold) gives him a count. That in turn gives him stat loss if he dies. So if he gains to much stat loss, and ever does in fact die, he can in many cases, never rez. Why? because unless he spends all day everyday macroing, then he is screwed.


What people do here to get around it, is abuse the account system here. They have 3 accounts and while two characters are macroing to be a pk, the other they can play. So then when the pk they have eventually dies, they can simply delete him and use a reserve pk.

Its simplistic, but expected. People in this sort of game, will cheat anyway they can. Integrity is only for victims, or guys who play a game to have fun, not get back at the Dad who would never hug them, nor the Uncle who did....

Another words, so be it. I can either accept the need for a botched system, or move along. I barely have time to play anyways.

easy man... i was just trying to explain what i see in the game w/ my red.

I work all day, am committed on most weekends and a couple nights for golf/poker/etc. (all on top of having a GF who despises this lovely game... )

So if i get a couple hours a night to go out and PK (which is not how i spend all my time anyway) it is almost impossible for me to get into deep staat. I sit naked in my house all night and all day everyday... Some nights it is hard to find one single target... and alot of times they dont count me. So i basically get 14 kills a week macro'd off. That is a pretty good week of PK'ing for the hours i play unless we get into a spawn war and are killing and being killed multiple times in one night... Counts can add up quick there.

All that being said... Stat is a 2 day time out. Any accomplished player can re-stat a char in 2 days of solid macroing.

I understand how this can be frustrating, but this was the era we are playing in.

If you need some tips on avoiding reds or want some examples of what i do when farming to minimize losses from potential ganks throw me a PM or look for me in IRC.

Once you get your mindset to "i can die at any moment in this game so i will plan accordingly for the worst case scenario" you will see how getting killed is really minomized to a minor bump in the road and maybe a loss of 10-20 mins work.

Good luck, i hope you stick w/ it.