On blessed items

[Telamon]

Thus, the statement that I reiterated has been out in the open for quite some time. Beyond that, I did not give a time frame for when such a change would occur because there is no time frame for it (ideally sooner than later, but no guarantees can be made).

Seems that this change is desired and at least one GM would like it done soon. Interesting that anytime I mention this in one of Dr.Fausts threads my posts selling "gf" blessed items are immediately deleted.

Moderation at it's best in order to make sure the value of ones items is not affected.

My own personal desire to have grandfathered items dealt with has nothing to do with when it is actually dealt with. Beyond that, no posts or threads have been moved, split, or deleted by Dr. Faustus or any other moderator of the trading forum in the last week.

These claims are entirely baseless and have no place here.

If this is so can you explain to me where my post in this thread went? viewtopic.php?f=74&t=31049

Multiple times over the last month my posts in Fausts threads have been deleted without warning or explanation. Always in reference to grandfathered items he is selling.

I would not claim that my posts were being deleted if it was not the case.

[Pied Piper]

Thus, the statement that I reiterated has been out in the open for quite some time. Beyond that, I did not give a time frame for when such a change would occur because there is no time frame for it (ideally sooner than later, but no guarantees can be made).

Seems that this change is desired and at least one GM would like it done soon. Interesting that anytime I mention this in one of Dr.Fausts threads my posts selling "gf" blessed items are immediately deleted.

Moderation at it's best in order to make sure the value of ones items is not affected.

My own personal desire to have grandfathered items dealt with has nothing to do with when it is actually dealt with. Beyond that, no posts or threads have been moved, split, or deleted by Dr. Faustus or any other moderator of the trading forum in the last week.

These claims are entirely baseless and have no place here.

If this is so can you explain to me where my post in this thread went? viewtopic.php?f=74&t=31049

Multiple times over the last month my posts in Fausts threads have been deleted without warning or explanation. Always in reference to grandfathered items he is selling.

Maybe he has grudge cuz you are the Donald Trump of UO?

[Kaivan]

Thus, the statement that I reiterated has been out in the open for quite some time. Beyond that, I did not give a time frame for when such a change would occur because there is no time frame for it (ideally sooner than later, but no guarantees can be made).

Seems that this change is desired and at least one GM would like it done soon. Interesting that anytime I mention this in one of Dr.Fausts threads my posts selling "gf" blessed items are immediately deleted.

Moderation at it's best in order to make sure the value of ones items is not affected.

My own personal desire to have grandfathered items dealt with has nothing to do with when it is actually dealt with. Beyond that, no posts or threads have been moved, split, or deleted by Dr. Faustus or any other moderator of the trading forum in the last week.

These claims are entirely baseless and have no place here.

If this is so can you explain to me where my post in this thread went? viewtopic.php?f=74&t=31049

Multiple times over the last month my posts in Fausts threads have been deleted without warning or explanation. Always in reference to grandfathered items he is selling.

I would not claim that my posts were being deleted if it was not the case.

Considering the fact that the moderator logs do not show any posts being deleted in that thread, or in any thread for the last 5 days, I would say that it went nowhere because you didn't make the post. Also, DrFaustus does not have the authority to wipe moderator logs so it's not possible for him to have covered any tracks if he were attempting to irrationally moderate your posts.

Edit: In the last 3 years, you've had a total of 3 posts deleted.

[Notorious]

Thanks for this Matron.

I hate to think all of the other items the $$$ guild has been able to sell at a premium because of information leaked to them because of their preferential status.

The information given to $$$ was 'intentionally broad' according to Kaivan, but it seems that it was also 'intetionally directed to the $$$ guild.'

I think this is a travesty and Matron has done the right thing by putting such insider-information into the public arena. Conversely, I do not think giving out special hints and tips to any specific guild is the right thing. The shame of it.

Thanks again Matron - I would not have known this inside-information had it not been for your courage.

Regards,

Mens Rea.

Matron had nothing to do with it you idiot, he had no clue
I told you Matron would take credit for this shiet.

[Telamon]

Apparently I was mistaken, my posts never get deleted from Fausts threads. I must just be imagining things.

Thanks for the clarification and checking, but the general direction of the server has been made clear in this tread.

[Kaivan]

Apparently I was mistaken, my posts never get deleted from Fausts threads. I must just be imagining things.

Thanks for the clarification and checking, but the general direction of the server has been made clear in this tread.

Overall, it's a pretty big thing to suggest that DrFaustus is doing that in the first place, and it's a bigger one to suggest that I can't find any evidence of it, which necessitates that an administrator is intentionally erasing logs of this activity. All while you have absolutely no evidence to back the position up. So, unless you're suggesting that there is a top level decision to support a particular player's personal goals in trade forum moderation, then yes, you're mistaken.

[Arsen]

Apparently I was mistaken, my posts never get deleted from Fausts threads. I must just be imagining things.

Thanks for the clarification and checking, but the general direction of the server has been made clear in this tread.

Overall, it's a pretty big thing to suggest that DrFaustus is doing that in the first place, and it's a bigger one to suggest that I can't find any evidence of it, which necessitates that an administrator is intentionally erasing logs of this activity. All while you have absolutely no evidence to back the position up. So, unless you're suggesting that there is a top level decision to support a particular player's personal goals in trade forum moderation, then yes, you're mistaken.

if iam right, telamon is talking about some "selling purple neon sandals" thread from doc. "his first one from 3?"
where he asked him if they are grandfathered and if they will break in the near future. i saw the post with my own eyes and also saw it gone the next day. i also remember telamon asking doc. y he deleted his post and i think this post got also deleted (not sure about the second one) but no kaivan, telamon is right here and i do backup this. sorry

[Kaivan]

Apparently I was mistaken, my posts never get deleted from Fausts threads. I must just be imagining things.

Thanks for the clarification and checking, but the general direction of the server has been made clear in this tread.

Overall, it's a pretty big thing to suggest that DrFaustus is doing that in the first place, and it's a bigger one to suggest that I can't find any evidence of it, which necessitates that an administrator is intentionally erasing logs of this activity. All while you have absolutely no evidence to back the position up. So, unless you're suggesting that there is a top level decision to support a particular player's personal goals in trade forum moderation, then yes, you're mistaken.

if iam right, telamon is talking about some "selling purple neon sandals" thread from doc. "his first one from 3?"
where he asked him if they are grandfathered and if they will break in the near future. i saw the post with my own eyes and also saw it gone the next day. i also remember telamon asking doc. y he deleted his post and i think this post got also deleted (not sure about the second one) but no kaivan, telamon is right here and i do backup this. sorry

That particular deletion is on record 6 days ago along with 3 other deletions in that thread at the same time. While I don't know the contents of the thread (it too was deleted a short while later), or the deleted posts, there is little evidence to suggest that what was targeted any particular person.

[iamantitype]

So wait, there were no records of posts being deleted in that thread, and now suddenly there are?

Why not just be straight up and tell the player base that GF items are going to start breaking soon?

[Kaivan]

So wait, there were no records of posts being deleted in that thread, and now suddenly there are?

Why not just be straight up and tell the player base that GF items are going to start breaking soon?

There were posts in a different thread that were deleted. Not the one that was linked. Additionally, the deletions were not targeted at any one person due to the fact that 3 different deletions happened within 60 seconds of each other, followed by the thread itself being deleted a short while later.

[Notorious]

So wait, there were no records of posts being deleted in that thread, and now suddenly there are?

Why not just be straight up and tell the player base that GF items are going to start breaking soon?

Ok it's not right to put a time limit on when they release the patch it could be in 2 years NO one know my opinion is that
they haven't even discussed about how they are going to deal with the Grandfathered items, just because it's not that big of a deal

[kill drizitz]

Why are you worried about improperly placed houses when children in Africa are starving?

People love to complain I guess, life goes on...




To clarify:
I in no way mean to imply that staff is giving "insider information" or anything to that likeness, it was another player who jumped to that conclusion. I simply wanted the information to be easily available to everyone, as there seems to be an influx in grandfathered blessed items afloat lately. Personally, I have not heard about the possibility of them breaking from anyone, and Kaivans vent opinion was the first that I have heard of it.

lol, did u really get upset at my post? lol

[itwouldbewise]

Let's do a little mathematical proof here based on the axiom that
Trammel = terrible
...
From the fact that
Blessed grandfathered items = no risk
and
Trammel = no risk
it is easily shown (using 5th grade algebra) that
Blessed grandfathered items = Trammel
and therefore
Blessed grandfathered items = Terrible

Therefore, it would be wise (based on sound mathematical principles) to make it such that the use of blessed grandfathered items (and all blessed items) is subject to some amount of risk.

[Pied Piper]

You are WISE. Hopefully ppl are now enlightened. I doubt it though because ignorance and greed is incurable.

[MatronDeWinter]

Let's do a little mathematical proof here based on the axiom that
Trammel = terrible
...
From the fact that
Blessed grandfathered items = no risk
and
Trammel = no risk
it is easily shown (using 5th grade algebra) that
Blessed grandfathered items = Trammel
and therefore
Blessed grandfathered items = Terrible

Therefore, it would be wise (based on sound mathematical principles) to make it such that the use of blessed grandfathered items (and all blessed items) is subject to some amount of risk.

Quod erat demonstrandum my friend. 1+n coolpoints from me for at least starting with an axiom and proving your conjecture. I like you already. Proving that Grandfathered items = no risk is trivial and under the scope of this writing.

All the complaining of [the 3] people who will quit because of this [if it even happens] is sad. Almost as pathetic as Omnicrons "I'll never donate to this shard unless they make the changes I want" rant in another thread.