Revealing Hiders/Invis w Pots and Detect vs Invis spell

[Eaglestaff]

I remembered revealing hiders w pots back in the day but i don't recall if it unhid them or they just unhid themselves because they were under attack. My memory leans toward the former. Currently pots do not reveal hiders.

Also, I had revealed someone who was invis with a char that had zero detect skill. I know detect checks hiding skill for success but in the case of invisibility it would seem logical that it would check their magery skill. I'm guessing the reason I was able to reveal them with a char w zero detect is because the mage had zero hiding skill.

[Alex the Artist]

Explosion potions would reveal people when you were standing next to them. You potion damages them and they auto attack back, with reveals them. If you are not standing next to them, it won't reveal them.

If you were in your house when you were detecting, you always succeed. If not, then dunno. Maybe you were just really really lucky.

[archaicsubrosa77]

You can use field spells too I believe

[Ronk]

I believe you should be able to reveal a mage who uses the invisibility spell, assuming they have 0 hiding, with zero detect. Of course, the area of detect is extremely small (1 square?) with 0 detect. In essence, if I saw a mage cast invis to hide, I could click detect on that spot and reveal him.

[Hemperor]

Detect Hidden. One of the best uses of an Explosion potion is it's ability to flush players out of hiding. If you're being attacked by a pk who hides every other hit, find where he is hiding and drop one at his feet. It will both damage him AND reveal his location. This is also useful against looters and thieves. Also, Explosion potions work very well because of being an area effect explosion to hit multiple targets if they are in range which is VERY useful in a PvP situation such as a guild war.

http://web.archive.org/web/200001181608 ... osion.html

[Xukluk Tuguznal]

I believe you should be able to reveal a mage who uses the invisibility spell, assuming they have 0 hiding, with zero detect. Of course, the area of detect is extremely small (1 square?) with 0 detect. In essence, if I saw a mage cast invis to hide, I could click detect on that spot and reveal him.

while you could detect them It has the same chances pretty much of trying to hide with zero skill. Back on Great Lakes I trained detect off of mages casting invised. I couldn't reveal them 100% until about high thirties to mid forties.

[Xukluk Tuguznal]

Detect Hidden. One of the best uses of an Explosion potion is it's ability to flush players out of hiding. If you're being attacked by a pk who hides every other hit, find where he is hiding and drop one at his feet. It will both damage him AND reveal his location. This is also useful against looters and thieves. Also, Explosion potions work very well because of being an area effect explosion to hit multiple targets if they are in range which is VERY useful in a PvP situation such as a guild war.

http://web.archive.org/web/200001181608 ... osion.html

I use to think hiding was dmg based while under attack. Not sure about that though. I know I would get gped or dped at times and would start a bandage then hide. While hidden the poison message would show up in the corner like a system message until about the second or third tic when it would reveal me.

[iamreallysquall]

i think you need 14.7 to revel a 0 hider mage who casted invis

[Wonko the Sane]

About detecting with zero skill, and doing other things at low skill. It seems to me that at very very low skill that you have a good chance for success at least for a few times, and I always thought this was a way to show how the skill works, a few freebies. I have experienced this sort of thing with lumberjacking. Starting at zero, I can gather wood successfully a few times and then after that it takes forever between attempts to get any wood. Am I crazy or is there such a mechanic with some skills (hiding too, for example)?

[nightshark]

About detecting with zero skill, and doing other things at low skill. It seems to me that at very very low skill that you have a good chance for success at least for a few times, and I always thought this was a way to show how the skill works, a few freebies. I have experienced this sort of thing with lumberjacking. Starting at zero, I can gather wood successfully a few times and then after that it takes forever between attempts to get any wood. Am I crazy or is there such a mechanic with some skills (hiding too, for example)?

it's impossible to have 0 lumberjacking though because of the initial stat bonuses to the skill

[Panthor the Hated]

why was this resurrected?