Do something about this autotabbing bullshit

[Sivrik]

Find a way so people crash if they got a macro spamming tab the entire time, its retarded seeing people run around with autotab looped, i dont think i ever saw people with this kind of macro in t2a and it shouldnt be here either. I don't exactly know how to fix it, but since im in suggestions i figure someone here could come up with something from this.

Lets hear it!

[Jaster]

The reason you see auto tabbing now and not then is because on this shard, players rely on their weapon hit to do the bulk of the damage whether they are a mage or a dexer. Real T2A players relied on their spell combos to do the bulk of the damage. You didn't have to worry about players abusing a hally hit because it wasn't what normally killed you or did the damage (unless it was a big damage exp eb hally synch combo).

There are very few mages with swordsmanship on this server ... but there are a lot of swordsman with magery ...

[Faust]

The only reason people didn't abuse auto defend during t2a is because there was no attack last macro to loop it unlike now. Hallies were used extensively during t2a Jaster.

[Jaster]

I never said they weren't used, but they weren't the main source of the damage, spells were... If you watch a fight here, you see more hally swings that spells casted, which is the opposite of how it was.

[Xukluk Tuguznal]

There are very few mages with swordsmanship on this server ... but there are a lot of swordsman with magery ...

Think that says it all

[Faust]

I never said they weren't used, but they weren't the main source of the damage, spells were... If you watch a fight here, you see more hally swings that spells casted, which is the opposite of how it was.

Not really. I used a hally more than my spells back then.

[venox]

the amount someone uses a weapon. has nothing to do with the act of auto tabbing.
id vote to get rid of it if possible!

[Jaster]

I never said they weren't used, but they weren't the main source of the damage, spells were... If you watch a fight here, you see more hally swings that spells casted, which is the opposite of how it was.

Not really. I used a hally more than my spells back then.

Then maybe you didn't play a mage, or you shouldn't be the one to work on this aspect of the game. Hally was used for an EXP EB Hally Combo that hit at the sametime (which it doesn't here yet) , or EB Hally, or EXP MA Hally generally. If the combo didn't work, players used a katana or a faster weapon then a hally while their mana came back. They didn't run around waiting for the hally to swing. MAge pvp involved spell fakes and big damage combos with magic arrow as a disturb to throw people off. Hally was a finisher, not the bulk of your damage.

[Faust]

Please don't dispute my PVP credentials. I'm sure you're not written in history unlike myself on wtfman articles where even Ron feared me. We don't even need to venture into this debate.

My research for proven PVP mechanics based on how I remember them are completely solid. Your suggestion that a weapons delay can't be overriden is completely incorrect. T2A pvp you could ebolt, hally, ebolt, hally. Mind you that ebolt takes 1.75s to cast and a halberds delay is 4.95s at 25 stamina. I really wouldn't get into pvp mechanics with myself if I were you. Trust me.

[platy]

I've already brought up the problem in the patch notes discussion.. it is Razor: which is not something we can fix.. Razor is what removes the oldschool aspect of PVP here, not so much these loops or anything.. I agree with Siv that a nice suggestion would help, but agian I honestly can't see ANYTHING we can do about it.. I beleive the staff has already thrown a limit to auto-attacks but regardless of the loops if your quick/coordinated enough anyone can literally spam the hell out of "tab" which would be the same thing anyways..

Also it didn't happen too much on UO because 1. No attacklast (as faust said) and 2. PVPers weren't as developed as they are today (especially with all these programs- razor included)
These days we have people who've played UO for 10+ years.. and know everything about the game and its mechanics, back then I doubt ANYONE knew EVERYthing about the game and it's PVP system

[Jaster]

The Only thing you are "written into history" for is being a know-it-all prick that won't ever admit that he is mistaken or wrong. This isn't uofa it's uosa. Just because you've done research doesn't mean you are the only source for information. You played chessy ... Maybe they used the hally like they do here, but Atlantic didn't. ... I was in ssj on atlantic and anyone who played Atlantic during that era knew that guild. You may be right from your end, but I'm not wrong from mine.

You have a personal problem with every post I make. Don't ruin these forums with your own personal vendetta.

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[Faust]

Ronald McDonald played Baja... I didn't play chessy. Nighthawk(old guild member of mine), Ron, and I played Baja. Actually none of the wtfmen played chessy that I am aware of. I'm not quite sure where you got that piece of information from.

I admit when I'm wrong. There is just very few times that I am. Just like the other day when Derrick and I discussed the mobile image of a titan and cyclops including the terathan avenger(which was changed recently). I had the cyclops and titan image switched up in my mind and admitted I was wrong when he showed it to me. You are correct that this is UO Second Age. A shard that states that it strives to replicate the t2a era, and yes the mechanic I stated above in fact existed. Atlantic may not have been as advanced in the pvp area as Baja or Chessy perhaps. I can't really say one way or not. I only mention chessy because of people here that played that shard who also remembers it. If someone didn't use that function to overide a weapon delay they would have been as good as dead in a duel with someone who did. It existed during the entire time until insta hit was removed.

I have no personal vendetta against you. It was you that first claimed that I must not have played a mage during this era. Was it not? However, I will put it out there when you make claims that something didn't work when in fact it did. I will also point out an inconsistancy in something when someone states it. It doesn't matter if it is you or anyone else for that matter. I'm sure there has been plenty of people that would vouch that I pointed out something to them when they said something opposite. My goal is to help make this shard accurate, and I will stay true to that goal no matter what. Don't let your feelings get hurt if I point something out when you make a mistake or incorrect response.

[Ezp]

I used Faust's tactics quite a bit I also used Explo/hally/ebolt same time tactic but it only worked on ppl not so good or got lucky. Faust's system is the true era accurate insta hit. Also you have to remember isp's played a huge roll back in those days. Most ppl had 56k still and you could get away with Explo/hally/ebolt due to latency. Im sure differ servers had different forms of pvp too. Just coz one person played on server "A" and remembers pvp a certain way, doesn't mean it was like that on server "B".

[Jaster]

servers were quite unique during this era. Because one server does things one way and another does it their way does not make one Inferior necessarily. I remember clear as day the wayfigbts went on Atlantic during t2a and just because you information from other set era varies doesn't make what I know incorrect. But that can lead one to say that maybe the mechanics are correct but the ediquette of Pvp and player mentality will never be t2a accurate. I will say that I would appreciate if you tell me a claim I make is incorrect then please support it with something other what you remember. A source would be nice. Remembering something is good to make a suggestion but proving it false needs proof or t shouldn't be shot down

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[platy]

why is this thread looking so familiar?