Items out of reach from one tile away?

[Hans]

I use fish steaks as spacers when I am decorating. I noticed recently that I can not take the fish steaks (and other objects) from underneath items that I have locked down -- but only sometimes. I am one tile away, and I get the "I can't reach that." message. I can't even eat the steaks.

I assume this has something to do with the 2-tile reach change I read about? It's only been about a month since I last decorated, and I didn't have problems then.

I have an example in my new house if a GM wishes to come see the bug in action.

EDIT: This also happened with a flower pot, after I set a painting on top. I unlocked the flower (had not locked down the painting yet), and got the "I can't reach that." message when I tried to take the flower pot. So it's not just fish steaks.

EDIT2: Can't duplicate it now. It might have been a razor drag-que glitch. I will update this thread if the problem continues, and if I can rule out razor.

EDIT3: Ok, I can repeatedly duplicate it again (strange). I tested with object queing on and off, and with just the UO client (no razor). Same results - "I can't reach that."

[Derrick]

This is related to "reaching" through "surfaces", for example you are currently unable to reach an item under a table if you are above the table, this also applies to reaching through floors. For now this is an intentional bug untill we can readdress it; with the changs to LOS a month or so ago, and the more recent changes to statics and land tiles in RunUO 2.1 (our patch 140a), things got a little out of hand, and this was a quick reliable solution. Hopefully we can fix this more correctly soon.

Thanks.

[Hans]

for example you are currently unable to reach an item under a table if you are above the table

Haha, I bet when I could take the fish steak, I was standing next to, instead of sitting on the chair I have in front of the writing desk. I guess when sitting, the chair was placing me above the fish.

Thanks for explaining it to me.