taking away something players enjoyed?

[Brules]

we would never hold our own tourneys due to grief-tactics and the amount of idiotic people who attend when there are no restrictions in place.

1 player can ruin the entire event easily.

whether or not events are removed/increased wont affect my play-time, just where i choose to spend that time at ;/

Era accuracy achieved.

http://www.wtfman.com/oldjov/stories/nhawk12.htm

The automated event system, while being a nicely coded well oiled engine, was/is nothing more than Trammel for PvP'ers.

I wish they would axe it 100%.

[BlackFoot]

Trying to hold pvp tournys without a server event to rally the pvpers online around has failed so many times for me. Maybe a few more weeks of no events and it may be possible. I doubt it though.

[rouss]

1. buy-in for attendants
2. thorough security
3. in-house arena (to ban/eject violators)

and you're good (theoretically).

after that it all depends on attendants.

[Wise]

1. buy-in for attendants
2. ???
3. Profit

and you're good.

this is actually how it works

[rouss]

1. buy-in for attendants
2. ???
3. Profit

and you're good.

this is actually how it works

[benny-]

matron give me a break there is ZERO connection between your social gatherings, player run irc channel and what not to CTFs and DDs. seems like u have been spending ur time on irc/fourms instead of in game because I'm LOL at your observations of "people farming, holding their own events and just meeting up to play to game" that's what players have always been doing and shit has not changed.
and ROFL and benny can u plz stfu kid!!! pks and farmers have always been here man. just because you and matron happen to observe more people out there has nothing to do with a 30 minute DD or CTF. more people have been joining the shard and the players who play a CTF or DD from time to time also play the shard actively.

So seeing more activity happening after the events were cut in half has nothing to do with one another? The less that's being offered in Trammel, the more people will have to find content across the map. As Brules so put it, I wish the whole system were axed.

But then again, I wouldn't expect someone to get it who's only responses are LOL....ROFl....stfu! Now there's an argument.

[Psilo]

I don't get this whole "no one shows up" or "we can't get a tourney together cause of griefers" arguement.

I've been to 2 player-run tourneys on this shard since starting and the amount of griefing was minimal since it was on a keep or tower. The tourney finished both times and I didn't even hear about them until the day they happened! Events don't need to be automated! I entered into an ACE tourney and won 1st place 200k! It was fun because it was a real tournament and not a trammel one, there was always a sense of danger which is kinda nice in UO....

There was plenty of participants, some people won't join a tourney unless there's a cash prize. Some people will...you have to cater to the pvp community. Put a nice 150k-200k pot up for 1st place and I guarantee people will show up.

Do what you gotta do, most of all let's have fun.

[Wise]

I agree, [$$$] Has hosted many, many events and with the exception of a few have always had a great turn out, Griefing happens, though I have almost stopped using GMs to give me public shardwide messages about my event because I found it brought in FAR to many players who were just their to grief, advertise in advance on IRC and forums and there should be no issue in regards to turn out


I have attached some pics from our events which we hosted (and took screen shots for) its clear that players DO come out for player run events.

[Mirage]

This is the factor that everyone seems to keep forgetting when mentioning the "old feeling". When you refer to the UO you remember, when you refer to player ran events, etc. That was on an OSI shard. This is NOT an OSI shard. The mechanics are very similiar. Unfortunately, this shard doesn't have anywhere near the volume that OSI shards did. I would estimate that OSI shards around T2A era were at least 2-3k online at any given time. On here we have at most 500 clients on, and probably %50+ of them are multi-clients. The events gave people something to do on this shard when field pvp was inactive. It also kept a LOT of players active on this shard (the results speak for themselves). As sandro said events won't effect his playing time, only where he spends it. I feel this is the same feeling a decent amount of players have. If everyone remembers, this shard was at an active all-time high client wise when events were in full swing. I'd like to point out that events are shard policy, not part of game mechanics. When everyone decided to log onto this shard, they knew the policy of this shard and that it had player ran events. It is selfish, and irresponsible to STILL decide to play here and try to change our way of life on UOSA. It's unfair for veterans of the shard who have used their time investing in UOSA, for it to be changed because a new comer decided that he doesn't like our shard policy. If you've decided to play here you knew what our shard was about, everything is well documented, the policy is clear, and the event schedule was listed on the site prior to you logging in here.

Edit: BTW God Bless the United States of America!

[BlackFoot]

Yea its a good point through example.
None of those were hindered in any way by people playing automated events at a different time.
Using automated events as an excuse that people do not throw or host events is proven untrue again and agian.

If anything automated events get more players online to participate in player ran events.

[Brules]

No, it gets ppl on to play the event for silver rewards which are sold for gold or used to get otherwise un-obtainable rares.

If everyone loves the events for "just the events" then remove all forms of rewards from them......bet they would be real popular then haha!

[Iced Earth]

A solid hour of risk-free pvp smack dab in the middle of primetime most certainly effects pvp in profound ways.

[BlackFoot]

the events times can be moved around at will

[Izual]

The automated event system, was/is nothing more than Trammel for PvP'ers.

If everyone loves the events for "just the events" then remove all forms of rewards from them...

+1

[monaxe]

I am extremely surprised that people would want to repetitively go out of their way to trash talk a system that the GM's took time to create and modify all for the players of the shard to enjoy. There are other ways to help the shard and I doubt that anyone would want to hear the stuff that people have posted about these events, when all they were trying to do was create something for players to enjoy. seriously give it a rest. saying to "trash/remove" something like that is pretty rude considering how much time and effort the staff here at UOSA invest.

nice screen shoots psilo and wise, i do remember some of those $$$ events and as everyone can see by the dates on those screenshots they were held a few months back if not over a year ago, some even before silver was introduced (also before some of the people who trash talk events played this shard). If some of the players/guilds who host the most in game events on the shard are saying/showing that the automated events were fine how they were maybe people should consider the source.

syntax well written post man, it seems that most of the people who are constantly trash talking events are here for the most part to be argumentative/repetitive or have not been playing UOSA for that long. I hope that the gm's can see by a few of our posts whats good and reconsider.