Animal taming

[Super_Hero]

Curious... In all these posts about how to do taming no one has ever mentioned to keep animal lore at 0. I'm not sure if it works on this shard... Because I already almost have GM Lore, but I've been doing some research and have seen that if you have Higher Lore, you succeed a lot more at taming, hence, taming takes a lot longer....

SO for all you noob tamers (like myself) when making a starting tamer, start off with 50 taming, and whatever skill you want and keep Lore at 0 until you GM or are satisfied with what its at...

Super Hero

[Sandro]

Curious... In all these posts about how to do taming no one has ever mentioned to keep animal lore at 0. I'm not sure if it works on this shard... Because I already almost have GM Lore, but I've been doing some research and have seen that if you have Higher Lore, you succeed a lot more at taming, hence, taming takes a lot longer....

SO for all you noob tamers (like myself) when making a starting tamer, start off with 50 taming, and whatever skill you want and keep Lore at 0 until you GM or are satisfied with what its at...

Super Hero

Is this just theory or a proven method that works on UOSA? I recall the same thing but have no evidence to back up that it was/is this way in the past or on UOSA.

[archaicsubrosa77]

I think animal lore has everything to do with being able to control your pet...not having anything to do with taming it except at Master level where you are facing some beasts that need that much control in order to be tamed. Could be wrong...waiting for others to chime in.

[Super_Hero]

Theory.... But it makes sense... Maybe if an Admin or GM could clarify?

Super Hero

[Super_Hero]

Also, another tip for all you tamers... Its a long and tedious road! And I've learned a few tricks over the years. One is that if you hold ALT in and click on the animal you are targeting to tame... It will reply Now Following... This will cause you to keep following that creature and keep you within taming distance.

Super Hero

[archaicsubrosa77]

alt, left click its also good if you have an alt you need to tag along....

Here is what wikki says about animal lore

"The first purpose is that it acts like Anatomy in respect to Healing, so that with 60 Animal Lore and 60 Veterinary you can cure your pet from poisons. However 80/80 in both skills will not allow you to resurrect your pet.

The second purpose for this skill is to enhance Animal Taming in that the pet orneriness check is made by comparing the creatures "tameable at" level to 80% of the masters Tame skill plus 20% of the masters Lore skill.

The third purpose is for checking your pet's status. As time goes on, your pet will require an upkeep of food, it's happiness decays overtime and can only be replenished by feeding it. See below for details. "

Basically its saying you need about an 80 animal lore and GM taming to tame something at 96 taming skill (nightmares the hardest to tame are 95.1) and control it when its fed. It doesn't say anything about aiding in the taming itself.

[Super_Hero]

Well, every shard is different and if I had a chance to start over with a tamer I would definitely test my theory... Because Lore isn't difficult to raise anyhow.

But could a GM or Admin please respond to whether or not it does affect taming?

Super Hero

[Mikel123]

Animal Lore has no impact on taming ability. It only impacts control over pets once they are tamed.

[platy]

This was tested almost 2 years ago by a guy named Storm.. He GM'd two tamers- the one that he didnt lock lore at 0 GM'd it MUCH faster.. IT's a myth here on UOSA..
On OSI post-T2a there was a bug where u can GM Lore or Taming by having both pointing up, and while taming a creature if u gain in one and not the other- lock the one you don't gain in and dont move and just keep taming the same creature n u should gain in the skill u didnt lock everytime until the creature was tamed. Lots of tamers came after this was discovered.. just like the resist method at Reaper Valley where u find the resource square etc..

[Super_Hero]

Well... It might be a myth, but I am at 78.9 REAL taming and I had almost gm lore... I made a Meditation macro last night and lowered my Lore and GUESS WHAT! I just went to the bulls pen to tame bulls... Was on the same bull for a whole 1.0 raise... and then the next bull was 0.7. Interesting huh?

My Lore is currently at 55.3, before it was 95.4. So I do believe Lore does effect taming skill raise!

Super Hero

[Oderus Urungus]

I made a tamer yesterday and I got 70 taming with lore at 0
Even if it is a myth I didnt see a point in training lore till I was finished with taming

[platy]

Skill gains for skills like taming are variable.. While you might think dropping the lore was the reason for the gains, it probably isnt the reason.
While trying to GM my tamer I did lots of things and had results like that: First of all killing your char for some reason helps, as does taking a break, as does gaining a different skill- could just be a coincidence but I used these methods to GM lockpicking as well when I would get "stuck" at a certain level.
But if it works for you I definately wouldn't stop- goodluck man

[Sandro]

There is no such thing as "getting stuck" gaining skills, unless you aren't using a method which yields you eligible to gain skill. (I.E.: Trying to gain magery at 85.0 skill using the fireball spell.)

The only time it was ever possible to not gain skills, was when you had already gained your maximum amount, per day, under the Rate of Time system on Siege Perilous.

[Super_Hero]

I know there are coincidences, but what I am trying to say is that on other shards its been said by their Admin's that Lore does affect the chance of taming by a %. This being said, why couldn't it have the same results here? Also what I am trying to say is the lower you Lore is the more you fail at taming a creature, which would make you use the skill taming more, which over time would raise it faster... BECAUSE your using the skill more.

It's not a coincidence, it really is working... I am just trying to help everyone else out.

Does it not bother you that some people are able to GM off bulls? This doesnt make sense. Unless they fail alot on the bulls...

Super Hero

P.S. I've also thought of this idea that since this little tamers secret got out (in a sense) this would make it so there are a lot more tamers out there which would inflate the money... So this might be why no one has ever pointed this little minor detail out before... IT MAKES TAMING EASIER!

Try it my friends I PROMISE you will not be disappointed!

[Sandro]

You gain GM off great harts..