Some question about the random stealing

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Hello everyone i'm have a thief and i have noticed something.

1) all people knows that the number of the stealing skill influences the number of stone that i can steal... But when i steal from a monster (steling gold) i have seen that yes it is a randomly amount of gold coin but generally it is % of the loot of the monster.. For example a zombie has about 50 gold and i usually steal about 10 o 15 gold... If i steal form an air elemental i can steal 80 90 gold... Is it correct???

I m very sorry for my bad english plz be patient on reading..

[Ronk]

When stealing stacks, I believe it should be that you steal as much as possible wtihin your skill.

Meaning, if you have 50 stealing and steal from a monster you should get up to 5 stones worth of gold (assuming it has that much)

[chumbucket]

In my experience, it steals a % of the pile until the pile is very small. I find that if I steal from a stack of, say, reagents in a player's bag, I will get large numbers at first, but the more I steal the smaller the amount I steal on an attempt. I've long thought that odd, but I don't recall how it worked in T2A so I've said nothing. Eventually, I will manage to the steal the last bit of the pile in one steal, but by then the pile is usually down to 2 to 8 reagents.

[brandonsantacruz]

In my experience, it steals a % of the pile until the pile is very small. I find that if I steal from a stack of, say, reagents in a player's bag, I will get large numbers at first, but the more I steal the smaller the amount I steal on an attempt. I've long thought that odd, but I don't recall how it worked in T2A so I've said nothing. Eventually, I will manage to the steal the last bit of the pile in one steal, but by then the pile is usually down to 2 to 8 reagents.

That's been my experience, too. If, say, cheeze had 150 ash and I stole from that stack at brit bank, I would take about 50-80, then progressively less until I can only take a hand full at a time.

[Kaivan]

Stealing stacked items worked the same during UOR as it did during T2A (with the exception of the early UOR bug where you couldn't random steal from people at all).

Random stealing essentially attempted to take a random item from the top layer of a person's bag. The calculation for how much was stolen was different in that it didn't restrict stealing attempts to items weighing 10 stones or less, meaning that a random steal could randomly attempt to steal single items that were heavier than 10 stones, such as halberds and war maces, and attempt to steal more than 10 stones of a stacked item. While it was possible to attempt to steal these items, your chance to steal heavier un-stacked items - which could only be attempted this way - was extremely slim. As for stealing stacked items randomly, the weight limit check for how much of the stack was stolen was not done, unlike like when you directly attempt to steal from a stacked item. To elaborate, when a stacked item weighing 200 stones is directly stolen from, the weight of the item is limited to 10 stones for skill checking purposes, and the amount stolen can only be within the maximum and minimum range, based on the player skill and the limited weight (in the range of 2.5 to 10 stones at GM, much like the hit/miss ratio break points for a warrior). When randomly stealing from a stacked item, the weight is limited for skill checks, but the actual limits for how much can be stolen are ignored, and a percentage of the stack is stolen. Thus, stealing from a stack has the potential to yeild much greater amounts when randomly stolen from, however it is extremely rare that you will actually steal from a stacked item (considering the randomness of actually stealing from the stacked item, which must be in the top layer of your bag to begin with), and it is even rarer that you will steal the entire stack.