some smith ques

freakystuff25 · Post by **freakystuff25** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:10 pm

Hello,
I want to train a smith character. And I already have a gm miner.

Q1: why do people's crafter characters always have no mining?

Q2 does smelting speed up blacksmith gains.

Q3 Do you use your smith to make 300 cutglass, and CAN YOU smelt them with another gm miner USING razor on a bag? It is very important that the second gm miner be able to smelt all the items automatically using razor.

Q4 once you have gm smith. Say you craft some plate chests or chain tunic and the success rate is not 100%, I suppose it is easy to use an organizer to put the exceptional items into bag 1, and put the non-exceptional items (if any, I never had a smith) into bag 2 for smelting?

With positive answers to the above ques, do you find it worthwhile to keep mining in the same smith character?

Thank fellow smiths.

mrbojangles · Post by **mrbojangles** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:36 pm

1. A lot of people just buy their ingots, and not having mining allows you to have more pure crafting skills on your mule. Many GM and then drop as they develop their mule.

2. Speed up gains? no. Smelting allows you to get more gains out of a given amount of ingots. Spend less time mining, but you dont get any money from your training. More mining gets you more ingots back.

3. You could do that, the restock agent would prob work.

4. The couple times i tried making that macro it didnt work very well, found it easier to just do it the old fashioned way.

Yes, mining is a good skill to have on a new smith.

Andersonius · Post by **Andersonius** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:32 am

I agree: mining is a very good skill to have on your smith as it makes the smelting process easy.

Once you GM smithing then you can figure out what you want to do from there I'd say. I still have mining on my smith but did not put 7 mule skills on him.

Post by **Duul al'Vath** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:55 pm

freakystuff25 wrote: Q1: why do people's crafter characters always have no mining?

My main crafter has no mining to allow him to make all of the house add-ons, craft potions and apply poison to weapons. That one character allows me to do so many different things freeing up other character slots. Including my other GM Smith/Miner.

freakystuff25 wrote: Q2 does smelting speed up blacksmith gains.

No but it does help with ingot return. You will use fewer ingots smelting the crafted items.

freakystuff25 wrote: Q3 Do you use your smith to make 300 cutglass, and CAN YOU smelt them with another gm miner USING razor on a bag? It is very important that the second gm miner be able to smelt all the items automatically using razor.

freakystuff25 wrote: Q4 once you have gm smith. Say you craft some plate chests or chain tunic and the success rate is not 100%, I suppose it is easy to use an organizer to put the exceptional items into bag 1, and put the non-exceptional items (if any, I never had a smith) into bag 2 for smelting?

I did this to keep stock for my vendors for a good while. Your macro should restock, make an item, wait til it is made, check for exceptional message, lift by type to your 'keep' container, check for non-exceptional, lift by type to your smelt container. I used to keep 3 chests full of GM Hallys made up so my macro actually had a counter so that if i had just made an exceptional hally place in chest 1, if i still have a hally place in chest 2 and so forth. I would occasionally find a non-exceptional item in my chest but it wasn't very often. I always just checked them when I pulled them out to put on my vendor.
My hally macro. You'd have to record your own drops to set the containers.
!Loop
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|50|0|0|Hally
Assistant.Macros.DoubleClickTypeAction|4027|True
Assistant.Macros.WaitForMenuAction|0|15
Assistant.Macros.MenuResponseAction|5|5049|0
Assistant.Macros.WaitForTargetAction|30
Assistant.Macros.AbsoluteTargetAction|0|0|1082230581|90|66|0|7154
Assistant.Macros.WaitForMenuAction|0|300
Assistant.Macros.MenuResponseAction|3|3917|0
Assistant.Macros.WaitForMenuAction|0|300
Assistant.Macros.MenuResponseAction|2|5182|0
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:02
Assistant.Macros.HotKeyAction|0|Restock Agent-2
Assistant.Macros.AbsoluteTargetAction|0|0|1077246334|1529|2796|10|3649
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:06
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|the world will
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:01:00
Assistant.Macros.EndIfAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you create an exceptional
Assistant.Macros.LiftTypeAction|5182|1
Assistant.Macros.DropAction|0x404E7CC8|(-1, -1, 0)|0
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:01.2000000
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|50|1|1|Hally
Assistant.Macros.LiftTypeAction|5182|1
Assistant.Macros.DropAction|0x4037DA94|(-1, -1, 0)|0
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:01.2000000
Assistant.Macros.EndIfAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|50|1|1|Hally
Assistant.Macros.LiftTypeAction|5182|1
Assistant.Macros.DropAction|0x402C066C|(-1, -1, 0)|0
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:01.2000000
Assistant.Macros.EndIfAction
Assistant.Macros.EndIfAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you create the item
Assistant.Macros.HotKeyAction|0|Organizer Agent-7
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:02
Assistant.Macros.EndIfAction
Assistant.Macros.EndIfAction

freakystuff25 wrote: With positive answers to the above ques, do you find it worthwhile to keep mining in the same smith character?

I always knew that I would have at least 2 GM smiths so I only needed mining on one of them.

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