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Just recalled back to minoc after I was fighting some guy in Covetous.

I ended up recalling as he brought his buddy in.

He found me, in town, and cast poison on me. I got guard whacked for it. You shouldn't get guard whacked unless you actually double click attack. I imagine this is a side effect of the way attack last spam works here. Guards would never whack you for *being attacked*, though.
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Did you have an EV/Blade at the dungeon.

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No.

He came back and cast poison on me, thus giving me the "xxxxxxxx is attacking you!" message. He was blue to me.

I was instantly guard whacked.

It shouldn't work like that.
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perhaps you werent safe from gettign guards called on you from the pervious encounter before you recalled into town? And as poison was cast on you perhaps an NPC called the guards while you were still in the whacking time frame?
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nightshark wrote:No.

He came back and cast poison on me, thus giving me the "xxxxxxxx is attacking you!" message. He was blue to me.

I was instantly guard whacked.

It shouldn't work like that.
it sounds like you f'ed up

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I don't know how simple I can make this for you guys.

I was standing about 5 tiles away from him.

I had attacked him roughly 60 seconds earlier in a dungeon. He was blue to me.

He came back to town, I was still grey.

He cast poison on me, and I died.

I should not have been guard whacked as I did not fight back.
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Lol I read dudes name as "NightHawk"
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nightshark wrote:I don't know how simple I can make this for you guys.

I was standing about 5 tiles away from him.

I had attacked him roughly 60 seconds earlier in a dungeon. He was blue to me.

He came back to town, I was still grey.

He cast poison on me, and I died.

I should not have been guard whacked as I did not fight back.
If you attacked him first in the dungeon, you have a 2 minute criminal flag timer, regardless of where you recall to. When he casted poison on you, it triggered you to auto attack him. Since you're grey auto-attacking a blue in town, you got gwhacked.

For future reference, never recall to town as a grey, especially if you've attempted to PK someone.
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hiicha wrote:When he casted poison on you, it triggered you to auto attack him.
teh fk?

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hiicha wrote:If you attacked him first in the dungeon, you have a 2 minute criminal flag timer, regardless of where you recall to. When he casted poison on you, it triggered you to auto attack him. Since you're grey auto-attacking a blue in town, you got gwhacked.
Yes, I'm fully aware of what happened. My point is that GUARDS NEVER FUNCTIONED LIKE THAT.

The message was that *xxxx is attacking you!*, not *You are attacking xxxx!*.
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nightshark is very correct about this. The scenario that he was in should not have gotten him guard whacked. At the very worst, he should have been eligible for a murder count if he had auto-defended against his last combatant (auto defending is not the same thing as actively attacking a person). Derrick will have to look in to this when he has a chance.
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Kaivan wrote:nightshark is very correct about this. The scenario that he was in should not have gotten him guard whacked. At the very worst, he should have been eligible for a murder count if he had auto-defended against his last combatant (auto defending is not the same thing as actively attacking a person). Derrick will have to look in to this when he has a chance.
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nightshark wrote:
Kaivan wrote:nightshark is very correct about this. The scenario that he was in should not have gotten him guard whacked. At the very worst, he should have been eligible for a murder count if he had auto-defended against his last combatant (auto defending is not the same thing as actively attacking a person). Derrick will have to look in to this when he has a chance.
Thank you! Someone actually reads the post without making assumptions!
I did read your post, which is why I explained exactly why you were guard whacked. Whether its era accurate or not, thats a different discussion.

Either way, you deserved it for trying to PK and recalling into a guard zone, of all places. Fail pk is fail.
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hiicha wrote:
nightshark wrote:
Kaivan wrote:nightshark is very correct about this. The scenario that he was in should not have gotten him guard whacked. At the very worst, he should have been eligible for a murder count if he had auto-defended against his last combatant (auto defending is not the same thing as actively attacking a person). Derrick will have to look in to this when he has a chance.
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I did read your post, which is why I explained exactly why you were guard whacked. Whether its era accurate or not, thats a different discussion.

Either way, you deserved it for trying to PK and recalling into a guard zone, of all places. Fail pk is fail.
Don't get your panties in a bunch. If you'd read my post carefully, you would have understood that I KNEW EXACTLY WHY I GOT GUARD WHACKED. THE ISSUE WAS THAT IT WAS INACCURATE. If the proper mechanics were in place it wouldn't have happened, it's that simple. Don't try to give me lessons on how to play the game. I'm here making a suggestion to make it accurate and you're bashing me for getting guard whacked via an inaccurate mechanic? GG.

An analogy of this situation would be me coming to the forums to say "guards are killing everyone regardless of whether they have committed a criminal action or not. it's inaccurate" and you come back and post "guard will kill everyone, regardless of their status. you need to learn how to play the game".

ps. I nearly always recall into a guard zone, criminal status or not, when I am escaping a situation. If the mechanics were accurate, trust me, I would not have died and do not want/need your advice on how I should play the game in future. I'll draw my own conclusions about the game, thanks.
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I use this tactic to insta-gwhack gate-hopping town bombers. Just double-click them in war mode - don't have to hurt them, and they die.
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