Non-Macro Community Movement
Non-Macro Community Movement
*Derived from http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6446
Ok, so we all macro. Do we? Some of us think that macro'ing certain activities is wrong and hurts the game, whether it be through inflation, lack of activity, etc. Any Ultima Online server is a living community, and has a real, malleable economy. A new t-hunter suddenly begins farming shipwrecks at an alarming rate: prices go down. A new thieves' guild becomes incredibly active: people buy more items as they are stolen.
Certain macro'ing (I believe all, but that's me) can maim this economy and more importantly, the community. No-one's perfect. You can gank noobs, kill dragons, or tame even the wildest beast, but so what? You know you didn't actively work for it. Nobody cares. There are many like you. You are a faceless pussy, hiding behind Razor because you don't have enough talent to actually work at gaining skill.
In a world of countless 7xGMs, where's the uniqueness? In roleplaying? How about in the characters with only 300-400 skill points, and one, maybe two GM skills. In Utopia, the weak and stupid are the most interesting.
So, I propose this: join me. Become a normal person. Tell the 7xGMs to go f themselves with a ten-foot pole taken straight from the D&D Player's Guide. Build a community. Sell your poor weapons crafted at only 70 smithing; farm in the forests until you have truly earned that 90 fencing; help your hard-working neighbor in times of extreme distress.
I'm not asking you to give up all macro'ing, though that would be nice. Give up what you truly believe you can do without. Macro'ing is a crutch for the weak. So, if I have swayed you (I'll be getting ganked every ten seconds after I post this, just you watch. e.e), then please reply and tell me what you intend on giving up. I'll try to keep an updated list here.
Non-Macro'ers
Macro's the Minimum
Pristiq
Macro's guards and UO-allowed macros.
NMC Members
RULES:
No macroing with razor (unless it's allowed by the UO client).
No "gifts" from macroers.
Try to buy only from non-macroers and NPC vendors, UNLESS YOU HAVE TO.
Wise as Bryce
[Macro This!, NMC]
Furync as Fur
[Drunken Smith, NMC]
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR as Sir RAAAAAAAAAAAR
[RAAAAAAAAAAAAAR, NMC]
I'm Drawing A Blank as Edward Ramey
[NMC]
Ok, so we all macro. Do we? Some of us think that macro'ing certain activities is wrong and hurts the game, whether it be through inflation, lack of activity, etc. Any Ultima Online server is a living community, and has a real, malleable economy. A new t-hunter suddenly begins farming shipwrecks at an alarming rate: prices go down. A new thieves' guild becomes incredibly active: people buy more items as they are stolen.
Certain macro'ing (I believe all, but that's me) can maim this economy and more importantly, the community. No-one's perfect. You can gank noobs, kill dragons, or tame even the wildest beast, but so what? You know you didn't actively work for it. Nobody cares. There are many like you. You are a faceless pussy, hiding behind Razor because you don't have enough talent to actually work at gaining skill.
In a world of countless 7xGMs, where's the uniqueness? In roleplaying? How about in the characters with only 300-400 skill points, and one, maybe two GM skills. In Utopia, the weak and stupid are the most interesting.
So, I propose this: join me. Become a normal person. Tell the 7xGMs to go f themselves with a ten-foot pole taken straight from the D&D Player's Guide. Build a community. Sell your poor weapons crafted at only 70 smithing; farm in the forests until you have truly earned that 90 fencing; help your hard-working neighbor in times of extreme distress.
I'm not asking you to give up all macro'ing, though that would be nice. Give up what you truly believe you can do without. Macro'ing is a crutch for the weak. So, if I have swayed you (I'll be getting ganked every ten seconds after I post this, just you watch. e.e), then please reply and tell me what you intend on giving up. I'll try to keep an updated list here.
Non-Macro'ers
Macro's the Minimum
Pristiq
Macro's guards and UO-allowed macros.
NMC Members
RULES:
No macroing with razor (unless it's allowed by the UO client).
No "gifts" from macroers.
Try to buy only from non-macroers and NPC vendors, UNLESS YOU HAVE TO.
Wise as Bryce
[Macro This!, NMC]
Furync as Fur
[Drunken Smith, NMC]
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR as Sir RAAAAAAAAAAAR
[RAAAAAAAAAAAAAR, NMC]
I'm Drawing A Blank as Edward Ramey
[NMC]
Last edited by Pristiq on Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:49 pm, edited 2 times in total.
chumbucket wrote:Everyone else, don't be a jerk to staff. Maahes cries enough already.
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lolPristiq wrote: You are a faceless pussy]
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Oh boy...Pristiq wrote: You are a faceless pussy, hiding behind Razor because you don't have enough talent to actually work at gaining skill.
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heh.. sort of an unproductive approach. Why not make a guild of adventurers that ban macroing skills? You can't change everyone around you, but you can change who you decide to play with. Hell, i'd play either way really.
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Kind of where I was going with, but more of a band than a guild. Ignore the macroers and pledge to buy only from those who work hard, not macro their goods.Daolin wrote:heh.. sort of an unproductive approach. Why not make a guild of adventurers that ban macroing skills? You can't change everyone around you, but you can change who you decide to play with. Hell, i'd play either way really.
chumbucket wrote:Everyone else, don't be a jerk to staff. Maahes cries enough already.
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=40810 - HOLY HELL AN AWESOME VENDOR?!
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Sorry, most people have better things to do than manually work resist. If you want to play that way then all the more power to you as you get steamrolled by ebolts.
Game =/ work
Go play WoW if you want to invest huge amounts of time to gain items. This game is perfect for casual gaming BECAUSE you can afk macro your character to some semblance of skills and further enjoy the supposed endgame that UO offers. I may have opted for this approach if I was unemployed and had tons of time on my hands but the fact is that I don't want to wait for months to enjoy my playtime. I, like many others, don't want instantaneous gratification from this game but at the same time I don't want some grindfest where I go through a mouse or two trying to GM skills (lol, osi).
Game =/ work
Go play WoW if you want to invest huge amounts of time to gain items. This game is perfect for casual gaming BECAUSE you can afk macro your character to some semblance of skills and further enjoy the supposed endgame that UO offers. I may have opted for this approach if I was unemployed and had tons of time on my hands but the fact is that I don't want to wait for months to enjoy my playtime. I, like many others, don't want instantaneous gratification from this game but at the same time I don't want some grindfest where I go through a mouse or two trying to GM skills (lol, osi).
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The fact is, that is completely not how T2A was...it was extremely rare to see anyone 7x. It affected gameplay, it added adventure etc.cletus wrote:Sorry, most people have better things to do than manually work resist. If you want to play that way then all the more power to you as you get steamrolled by ebolts.
Game =/ work
Go play WoW if you want to invest huge amounts of time to gain items. This game is perfect for casual gaming BECAUSE you can afk macro your character to some semblance of skills and further enjoy the supposed endgame that UO offers. I may have opted for this approach if I was unemployed and had tons of time on my hands but the fact is that I don't want to wait for months to enjoy my playtime. I, like many others, don't want instantaneous gratification from this game but at the same time I don't want some grindfest where I go through a mouse or two trying to GM skills (lol, osi).
If anyone was interested in starting a guild/group where macroing was completely forbidden, I'd love to start a new character and join.

[22:26] <ian> why am i making 3750 empty kegs
[22:27] <ian> 1125000 for 3750 empty kegs
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[10:44] <ian> a good cat is a dead cat
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I think Derrick should Jail AFK macroers ...Just like OSI ...ITS T2A ACCURATE!
jk
I think this guy should make his pitch and see if he can get anyone to play ball with him... Or we could ban having 7xgm characters...cause most people didnt have them for most of t2a...or at least multiple 7xgm characters!
jk again.
jk
I think this guy should make his pitch and see if he can get anyone to play ball with him... Or we could ban having 7xgm characters...cause most people didnt have them for most of t2a...or at least multiple 7xgm characters!
jk again.
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Towards the end it definitely became more common but I agree. However, it was not due to macroing as much as to the extremely slow skillgain. I macroed characters up plenty but going from like 92 resist - GM wasn't rreallllyyy worth the money to meHemperor wrote:The fact is, that is completely not how T2A was...it was extremely rare to see anyone 7x. It affected gameplay, it added adventure etc.cletus wrote:Sorry, most people have better things to do than manually work resist. If you want to play that way then all the more power to you as you get steamrolled by ebolts.
Game =/ work
Go play WoW if you want to invest huge amounts of time to gain items. This game is perfect for casual gaming BECAUSE you can afk macro your character to some semblance of skills and further enjoy the supposed endgame that UO offers. I may have opted for this approach if I was unemployed and had tons of time on my hands but the fact is that I don't want to wait for months to enjoy my playtime. I, like many others, don't want instantaneous gratification from this game but at the same time I don't want some grindfest where I go through a mouse or two trying to GM skills (lol, osi).
If anyone was interested in starting a guild/group where macroing was completely forbidden, I'd love to start a new character and join.
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Me and Pristiq are getting something going here, a no macroing band of characters...other than that I don't believe there are any other rules...
Looking to do oldschool dungeon crawls as a newb group, at first sight those ettins will scare the shit out of us etc. etc.
Anyone else interested is welcome to join, I don't think this will be either of primary characters..just trying to replace some of the old UO feel we used to get.
Looking to do oldschool dungeon crawls as a newb group, at first sight those ettins will scare the shit out of us etc. etc.
Anyone else interested is welcome to join, I don't think this will be either of primary characters..just trying to replace some of the old UO feel we used to get.

[22:26] <ian> why am i making 3750 empty kegs
[22:27] <ian> 1125000 for 3750 empty kegs
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[10:44] <ian> a good cat is a dead cat
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all cash for char have to be made by the char? or "donations" from other characters? 

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Everything has to be made by that character...what's the point otherwise? It's more of an honesty thing, personally I've done most things alread yon this shard...this sounds like a shitload of fun to me.Daolin wrote:all cash for char have to be made by the char? or "donations" from other characters?

[22:26] <ian> why am i making 3750 empty kegs
[22:27] <ian> 1125000 for 3750 empty kegs
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[10:44] <ian> a good cat is a dead cat
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On my old computer I had the midis from t2a UO installed and this really went a long way down nostalgia lane as well as made it alot more fun. Google around and you can download them and I think just editing the config to point towards them is all that is required.Hemperor wrote:Me and Pristiq are getting something going here, a no macroing band of characters...other than that I don't believe there are any other rules...
Looking to do oldschool dungeon crawls as a newb group, at first sight those ettins will scare the shit out of us etc. etc.
Anyone else interested is welcome to join, I don't think this will be either of primary characters..just trying to replace some of the old UO feel we used to get.
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Hemperor wrote:Me and Pristiq are getting something going here, a no macroing band of characters...other than that I don't believe there are any other rules...
Looking to do oldschool dungeon crawls as a newb group, at first sight those ettins will scare the shit out of us etc. etc.
Anyone else interested is welcome to join, I don't think this will be either of primary characters..just trying to replace some of the old UO feel we used to get.
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Well What of those people who work alot and want to get up to par with their friends who get to go on alot more, or up to par with the PK's who don't discrimainate macro or non macro? What if you have been playing awhile and want to change course in your character's development and whether macroing or not has spent countless hours building up their skills already? And really how much fun are the tedious tasks when they take virtual years to master?
The macro is a great idea. it slows down tendinitis and countless open click aim repetitions that just frustrate everybody. Of course using them in battle is unfair I think, yet using them to practice skills when you really don't have time to and want to proceed to the real fun...well who would dare want to take away the candy from them babies?
The macro is a great idea. it slows down tendinitis and countless open click aim repetitions that just frustrate everybody. Of course using them in battle is unfair I think, yet using them to practice skills when you really don't have time to and want to proceed to the real fun...well who would dare want to take away the candy from them babies?